Hello!
I am new here and was very interested in reading about the seabuckthorn and oil pulling treatments that some of you have tried.
I am nursing right now. My son is 11 months old and I am planning to nurse for 2-3 more months. I am guessing that the oil pulling might not be a good thing to do while nursing. However the topical sea buckthorn lotion and soap should be okay for now, don't you think?
I actually starting having KP during my second pregnancy. Did anyone else's KP begin during pregnancy? The coconut oil topically seems to be helping too.
I am thankful that you've all been sharing your ideas and successes here because I definitely wouldn't have thought of trying either of those things.

Thanks!

Hi chickadee:

Welcome!

My KP also began after pregnancy...

Just curious...Why not oil pulling while nursing?

Hi: I have been researching and using Sea Buckthorn for over two years. Based on what I've experienced and read using Sea Buckthorn topically presents no risk to either you or your baby.

The real danger you face is Vaccinations but that's another long, complicated story we can discuss at some other time.

I got a bottle of Sea Buckthorn shampoo about a year ago. Yes I wash my hair daily. Yes it has lasted that long. While I initially thought it was expensive, compared to other shampoos, non every lasted any where near this long.

Of course taking Sea Buckthorn internally is a really good idea if you want to put a remarkable free radical scavenger and anti-inflammatory product into your body.

Sea Buckthorn also protects mitochondrial DNA, and delivers glutathione directly to the cells. SBT is available in 500mg oil capsule. But, I prefer the liquid form that's now available through a drink called AlpineV because it contains 25grams in every two ounces. Enough said!

You shouldn't encourage people not to have vaccinations. Vaccinations are safe and I'm sick of people using scare tactics and encouraging people not to have them. You put the child at risk if you don't get them vaccinated.

That doctor who said there was a link between MMR and autism faked studies but nobody reports that.

Persuading people not to get their children vaccinated is extremely irresponsible and should not be tolerated. What if you kill someone because they weren't vaccinated? Will that make you reconsider?

Hi - what fun!
I don't dismiss the possibility that mercury and heavy metals may have played a role in hastening the onset of some children's autism. Further studies imply many autistics' lack of enzyme that aids in processing and eliminating heavy metals from our bodies. I think it's nice that the vaccine makers have pulled thimerasol just in case.

My son has had and gets his vaccinations. I haven't requested otherwise but you can request non-preserved vaccines. My most hard-core friends concerned about these things just do that. Some families have other philosophies however that have much to do with civil liberties and as long as I'm not worried about a public health crisis I pretty much feel that's up to them. That's about as far as my brain can handle...

Autism study tests glutathione levels - UPI.com

"Studies have shown that levels of the major intracellular antioxidant glutathione are typically about 50 percent lower in children with autism. Glutathione, which is produced by every cell in the body, is responsible for a number of functions including removing or neutralizing dangerous substances that people are exposed to on a daily basis, including toxic metals, according to scientists at the University of Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas."


Metabolic biomarkers of increased oxidative stress and impaired methylation capacity in children with autism

"Results: Relative to the control children, the children with autism had significantly lower baseline plasma concentrations of methionine, SAM, homocysteine, cystathionine, cysteine, and total glutathione and significantly higher concentrations of SAH, adenosine, and oxidized glutathione. This metabolic profile is consistent with impaired capacity for methylation (significantly lower ratio of SAM to SAH) and increased oxidative stress (significantly lower redox ratio of reduced glutathione to oxidized glutathione) in children with autism. The intervention trial was effective in normalizing the metabolic imbalance in the autistic children. Conclusions: An increased vulnerability to oxidative stress and a decreased capacity for methylation may contribute to the development and clinical manifestation of autism."

As far as breastfeeding and pregnancy, YES, that really brought my KP back _hard_. I think I could have helped myself a lot by taking EFAs for a few years in there. Perhaps even oil pulling but only organic oils since compounds may go directly into the bloodstream from sublingual absorption. I wouldn't pull flax oil or rice bran oil if pregnant or nursing. flax has some phytoestrogens and rice bran oil _may_ have a precurwsor to testosterone (I think, or some hormone...) So unless you get confirmation about pulling a mild oil, maybe wait till you've weaned.

I would think topical Sea Buckthorn would be fine. Orally, I'd be inclined to make sure I wasn't overdoing levels of E and A. But again, do some research.

AlergyExpert - where's you get the info on glutathione in SeaBuck?
- bd

Personally I consider Vaccinations to be an archaic technology. It was the best we could come up with at the time, but that time has long passed.

Many people have bought the marketing on vaccinations. They beLIEve vaccinations are doing what they were told they were doing. These are the same people who blithely take drugs prescribed by people they give their authority away to.

My philosophy is if something doesn't make sense perhaps you should question it and do a little digging to see the iceberg that might be below the surface.

The really funny thing is I got vaccinated. Not only did I develop hundreds of severe allergies shortly there after it never prevented me from getting the very diseases I was vaccinated against. In fact, I cannot remember very many children during my school years who didn't come down with measles, mumps, chickenpox (herpes) and on and on. Except of course the couple of kids who didn't get vaccinated.

Being vaccinated should be a choice. Not part of a government mandated program. This is a very controversial area, with lots of different opinions. The truth lies somewhere, yet we don't seem to be able to find it. While some children are vaccinated without ill effects, the horror stories for others are far to frequent. Any drug that was approved by the FDA causing as much concern as vaccinations would have been pulled off the market for much less.

One of you asked where I got information about Sea Buckthorn and Glutathione. This link will take you to the research I've compiled on glutathione and you'll find the research article there.

Thanks for asking.

Yeah, and the whole thing that they're scientifically proven to work, we should just ignore that right?

How does it not make sense? It makes your body produce the antibodies (or they put in the ready made anti-bodies) to protect you from a disease. It seems simple enough to me.

Yeah, right. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. I have never had the diseases I've been vaccinated against. What about when they wiped out small pox after they did mass-vaccinations, coincidence?

If You don't want to get vaccinated then I don't care. Kill yourself it you want to. But to encourage other people not to vaccinate their children (who have no choice) is equivalent to saying 'don't look when crossing the road.' It insanely irresponsible. I'd like to know what reason you have for claiming to be an 'expert.' This kind of idiotic quackery has no place in society. Do some research and stop being a fool. You have no right to endanger childrens' lives with your erroneous opinions which have no basis in reality.

OK, so a higher percentage of reduced glutathione means that there been more anti-oxidant activity right? and therefore, implies greater cellular health organism-wide or not? & what bearing _does_ glutathione have on KP in your opinion?

I'm also confused about whether we humans synthesize it from cystine or methionine, do you know?

I found dietary sources of cysteine,
"Cysteine is found in most high-protein foods, including:

• Animal sources: eggs, milk, whey protein, ricotta, cottage cheese, yogurt, pork, sausage meat, chicken, turkey, duck, luncheon meat
• Vegetarian sources: red peppers, garlic, onions, broccoli, brussel sprouts, oats, granola, wheat germ."

which kind of answers for me why parents of autistic kids try the feingold diet to help their kids. but I got a little confused about the synthesis aspect using methionine. or is is that our wonderful systems can create the cysteine and glutathione through a couple of paths? that would be sweet.
- bd