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Old 10-18-2007, 02:21 PM
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Molly,

Thank you for giving us the link to a solid study on oil pulling. It's good to see something like this that validates our results.

For those of you who are new here and don't know Molly, she first posted here just over a year ago, telling about how oil pulling helped her husband, who had KP. Then she suggested I post here, too, as I had also experienced a huge lessening of KP when I started oil pulling. And the rest is history. Our oil pulling/KP forum is over a year old, and still going strong. Molly posts here from time to time, and always has something helpful and interesting for us.

Molly and I met on the Cure Zone Oil Pulling Forum, which introduced me to OP. Check out that forum if you are interested.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:25 PM
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Desperate,

Desperate, your oil is probably OK. What brand is it? You don't want to use an oil that has been deoderized and bleached, as this leaves chemical residues. They do that to the cheaper coconut oil so it doesn't have a coconut flavor.

I hope you stay with pulling and can continue to see more skin softening. Be alert for other health benefits, as well. Please stay in touch.

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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Kebod,

Thanks for your reply. The brand is called Jarrow Formulas. It says on the back that it is expeller-pressed from the dried flesh of the coconut palm fruit and does not utilize any solvents in the manufacturing process. The ingredient just says 100% expeller pressed organic coconut oil.

It comes in a big black jar. I got it from Whole Foods.

Let me know. Thanks!!!!!
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Desperate,

Jarrow's is a good oil to use for oil pulling.

To Everyone,

I just ordered coconut oil from Mountain Rose. For those of you in the US who are serious about using coconut oil, this is the best price I have found online. One gallon organic, cold-pressed for $28.
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

hello,guys.i've been oil pulling for ten days already..but my teeth seems to get yellower than before..even my family said so..how do i solve this problem?
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:22 PM
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Supeng,

What kind of oil are you using?

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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

I have to say I still get a little confused about which oils are best, even though I feel I have read everything I could at least twice. I use spectrum but accidently got one refined and one unrefined. My Sunflower is Spectrum refined organic expeller pressed and my coconut is Spectrum unrefined virgin expeller pressed.

Because I started with these I continue to use them but have no idea if I should be using refined or unrefined as I have read conflicting things between curezone and earthclinic. I just keep on keeping on and praying, LOL.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:06 AM
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Refined or unrefined oil?

Peaches,

I wouldn't worry about it. This method began in India, using refined sunflower and sesame oil, and that original information is still posted. Unrefined would have more of the good qualities, since I believe the less a food is refined, the better it is for its nutrient value. Unrefined oil is not available in Mexico where I live, so I use refined with good results.

The three oils I use are refined, cold-pressed olive oil, refined, cold-pressed avocado oil (neither are organic), and extra virgin organic coconut oil.

Even cheap vegetable oil works, but since it is believed that oil nutrients may be abosorbed sublingually, it is best to use the best and purest oils you have available and can afford.

Here is a link to read more about the different types of oil. It explains the different terms, including cold-pressed and expeller-pressed, refined and unrefined:
Whole Foods Market : Products : Cooking Oils

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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

hey guys,

new to oil pulling...havn't even started yet infact. This thread is massive and i read about as much as i can....if i am just starting off what do you reccomend? Is avocado oil from the supermarket ok? how long should i start for? How do i do it!!!
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:43 PM
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Camco,

If you read the post right before yours, you will see that the best oils to use are expeller-pressed or cold-pressed, unrefined and organic. If you can only buy non-organic and refined, they will still help you, but they probably contain chemical residues. A natural food store is good place to look for these and Spectrum is a good brand (if you are in the US).

Sunflower has a mild flavor, so it is recommended for beginners. Untoasted sesame, coconut, and avocado are other good oils.

How to do it:

When your stomach is empty (first thing in the morning) put 2 or 3 teaspoons of oil in your mouth (1 tablespoon = 3 teaspoons and is the recommended amount, but for some, it can seem like too much). Slowly move the oil around in your mouth for 20 minutes. If you want, you can start out for just 5 minutes, and gradually increase the time, day by day, until you work up to 20 minutes. After 20 minutes, spit the oil down the bathroom sink drain or down the toilet. Brush your teeth and rinse your mouth out with warm salt water (sea salt is best). Drink 1-2 glasses of water. Now you can have breakfast.

You can oil pull in the afternoon or evening if you prefer, provided it has been 3 hours since you last ate. For some, doing it in the evening keeps them awake, because it can be energizing. Others don't feel this effect.

It also helps to eat a very healthy diet, take an omega 3 supplement, exercise and drink lots of water. Oil pulling can make a very healthy difference, but if you aren't taking care of yourself, it may not be as beneficial.

Good luck and let us know if oil pulling helps.

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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Thanks kebod

Will keep you posted

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Re: Explanation of how Oil Pulling works

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I was given permission by a fellow Oil Pulling forum member, Emily E. Thayer, to post her explanation of how oil pulling works. This can also be read at:
My theory on how oil pulling works at Oil Pulling & Oil Swishing Support

"Here are my thoughts, in a short form, of a biochemically trained brain.

Pretty much everyone here is familiar with the detoxing benefits of an adequate water intake.

Chemicals (molecules) come in two forms. Ionic and nonionic. Ionic chemicals are water soluble. When we detox our bodies, we drink lots of water to flush any unwanted toxins out of our body. WELL guess what? That's only half the picture. Nonionic molecules are soluble in body fat and cell membranes. *

By oil swishing, you are doing the same thing for your body as when you drink a sufficient amount of water daily. You are giving toxins a medium in which to dissolve, then by spitting the oil out, you are removing whatever toxins came in contact with and dissolved into the oil. Using OIL is beneficial because it dissolves a different chemical class of pollutant/toxin than water. This is why you see healing first in the mouth, then later in different parts of the body. The toxins must migrate to the mouth before they can be removed with this method.

This is also why switching to a different type of oil will create a new cycle of healing/detoxing. After you've oil-pulled long enough to "stabilize" your toxin level, you've removed as much toxin as you can with that particular oil. By using different oils with slightly different makeups, you will be able to dissolve slightly different toxins more effeciently. It is not a matter of your body getting "used" to anything -- it has to do with the chemical qualities of the oil itself.

With this knowledge, there are a few more things you can do to keep the good feeling going. One I'll endorse is to eat low on the food chain. Any time you eat fat from an animal, you're ingesting the fat-soluble pollutants that were stored in the animal's body. Guess who buys organic milk and butter?? Ha ha.

If you had an ample supply of appropriate oil, you could 1. coat your skin to excess, then remove after 15 minutes, or 2. use in an enema, preferably followed by a SWF to keep the toxins from migrating back into the bowel from any oil left after evacuating. These should have similar toxin-removing effects on your body, although they would be considerably more involved, messy, and costly due to the amount of oil required.

I hope this has helped some in the community understand the Science behind oil-pulling. It's not magic, and it's not even that wacky. It's a good, healthy, direct application of chemistry.

With this information in mind, you can see where oil-pulling for longer periods will give you a certain increase in benefits, but the daily wait in between cleansing is helpful to the process too. After all, the oil can not remove a toxin located in the bowel. The bloodstream and normal (slow) diffusion will have to carry it to the mouth before you can be rid of it. Think of your body as a sponge -- the oil can only clean one little spot of it at a time. Eventually the whole sponge gets clean... but it takes time and consistency.

Please excuse my spelling. It never was very good.
Thoughts welcome.

* Membranes are made up of molecules with an ionic side (faces the water-rich world and the cell's interior) and a nonionic side (sandwiched together, creates a chemical barrier)." (end of Emily's post)

There are many claims of benefits of oil pulling. For many of us, we experience the obvious ones, like a healthier mouth and gums, whiter teeth, but many of us are also finding out that there are health benefits we never imagined would occur because of this. For me, one of those unexpected benefits has been the end of the red bumps. The condition's name, Keratosis Pilaris, I only learned of this week when I informed my oil pulling forum about this.
I'm up for an experiment with oil pulling, but this explanation sounds a little far-fetched. Your mouth represents a very small fraction of your body, so unless the "toxins" are all hanging out there (doubtful), or somehow migrate there while you are oil pulling (also doubtful), this can't be how it works. If this method does work (and if it does I will be forever grateful), I strongly suspect that there is some other reason. But if it does work, knowing how it works is a secondary concern!
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:53 AM
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

MB,

Until we have good research done on OP, we will just have to go with individual results obtained from trying this method. I agree with you that "how it works is a secondary concern". It is a method that seems to be able to help minimize bumps for those with mild KP, but doesn't always helps with redness for those with severe KP.

There are those who think its primary action is by absorbing essential fatty acid (efa) from the oil. This seems to be an effective way to deliver efa, perhaps beneficial in its own way when compared to taking an efa supplement

As far as toxins go, yes, the mouth is a breeding ground of various bacteria. Some of this bacteria is absorbed into the bloodstream, and medical research now finds that oral bacteria contributes to heart disease, diabetes, and other conditons:

"Periodontal bacteria can enter the blood stream and travel to major organs and begin new infections. Research is suggesting that this may: From:
Connections Between Gum Disease and Other Health Problems

Oil pulling reduces oral bacteria. Here is a study that shows this:
(I'm not having success copying and pasting this link, perhaps because it is a pdf. Sorry. If you google "Effect of oil pulling on plaque and gingivitis" perhaps you will be able to read it.)

It is a small, preliminary study, and more is needed, but it is a beginning.

I hope you try oil pulling and can give us your own results. You will need to do it for at least 30 days to see a difference, though some see healthy benefits sooner.

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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

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im using sunflower oil..
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Re: Cured at last with oil pulling

Supeng,

You may want to try a different oil, like untoasted sesame or coconut, if your redness persists.

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