Kebod,

No, I have not ever heard of using the grapefruit seed extract! I will read the links you provided and look into it.

I too have read that you should not use oregano all the time, same with echinacea. I finally got logged into the curezone site, I gave up with my aol account and went and opened a new hotmail account in order to be able to post there. I felt like my nose was constantly pressed up to the window over there, getting to peek in but never post, lol.

Yes, I am very concerned about his antibiotic use, I dont want to do it, but we have had no choice. Yes, he and I both deal with candida, I have it worse than him, believe it or not and have given up all white flour and bread and most simple carbs. We both do primal defense probiotics by garden of life.

I am praying that this oregano will help fight the infection and eventually he can resume using the coconut oil, as I believe it really, really helps the most, very strong.

I started the oregano also, and am dealing with die off affects terribly. It was either the oregano or the hand zapper, but man, the die off affects were a killer for me for two days. I didnt use the zapper or the oregano for two days. One of them sure is working.

thanks so much for your insight Kebod, your a wonderful resource!!

My daughter has had KP since birth, I think. I've read about the oil pulling, and I might try that for myself, but for her...there's no way I'd get her to do that for that long. I wonder if I could maybe make a patch soaked in oil and placed on her skin overnight?

Would that work? If so, should I place it where she has KP...on the back of her arms...or find a different place so that the area isnt further irritated by any toxins.

Also, we live in the city, in a rental. I wonder if there is anything out there that I can use to filter the bath water so that the clorine doesnt further dry out her skin.

Oh and one more thing, about doing a total body detox for myself...I've tried that colon cleanse stuff..but I must be alergic to something in it. I know I really need to take better care of myself. I'm all my kids have. Any ideas of something that's natural that I can start on a cleanse? Colon, candida, liver and kidneys..all that stuff.

I'm past two days of OP. Today my face up into my scalp felt more oily than usual, is that common? I've seen no change in my KP and I didn't expect to in two days, but I am surprise i'm able to swish for 15 minutes already! I have swallowed once :\ We'll see how the rest of the week goes! OH, and another question...will wearing make-up, such as foundation effect the OP process?

RedAnnie,

Most likely the extra oil on you face will lessen. What type of oil are you using?

Give oil pulling a month to see if it helps you, though you may notice whiter teeth and a fresher mouth right away.

No, make-up should not interfere with OP, though be aware that your skin aborbs some of what you put on it, even make-up. I read the sobering news that some eye liners and other cosmetics contain ingredient that later shows up in the tissue of those with breast cancer. Somehow my eye liner doesn't seem that necessary any more.
Cosmetics and Breast Cancer - Organic Food, Organic Living - OrganicAuthority.com

Natural food stores and health food stores carry make-up with healthier ingredients.

kebod

Hey all :-) A while back I read a post (not sure who it was by, sorry!) stating that the tongue is a great indicator of the condition of other organs. Did some research and found this:

Tongue and Mouth Analysis

very interesting. Thank You to the person who made that post.

Yes, Kebod, just tonight as I was brushing my teeth I noticed them to be a bit more white. I'm using coconut oil...I may switch to sesame oil soon. But i'm giving the coconut a chance.

Kebod,

I did the spit test this morning and long cloudy strings sank to the bottom. There was still a bit of bubbles floating on top. So I guess that means I have it.

Anyway I did the oil pulling this morning for the first time. I did it for five minutes. I felt like my mouth was getting fuller and fuller of saliva and my body just instinctively would swallow. This happened like three times during the five mintues, but I can dont think I really swallowed what was in my mouth very much. I tried to control what was going down. (if that makes sense). Is it bad to swallow some and also how do I keep from doing that if it is bad?

Also I noticed right away a fresher cleaner mouth, teeth and gums. It is worth it for that alone. Overall it was a pretty good experience. I will keep you posted.

Scarred,

That was a very interesting article on the the tongue and what it tells us about our health. I didn't see a mention of a crack down the center of the tongue, something Baronster has talked about. Thank you for posting this.

RedAnnie,
Coconut has the best reputation for teeth whitening. It is recommended that one change oil when a lot of saliva is no longer being produced. I generally change oil about once a month. You may want to change oil if you don't see a reduction in oiliness on your face. I used to have very oily areas on my face, around my nose and on my chin and forehead. Since I started OP, that has ended.

Desperate,

Yes, your spit test results indicate you have candida. Have you taken any of the online questionaires that also help determine if you have candida? If you haven't, here is a link to one:
Yeast Health Quiz

It's good that your mouth filled with so much saliva. This is common when you first begin OP or when you change to a different oil. When your mouth feels too full, spit it out and start with new oil. We probably all swallow a little oil involuntarily. I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes, for mouth health alone, it is worth doing OP. Research has linked oral bacteria to heart disease. UB SDM - Oral Bacteria Most Likely to Increase Risk of Heart Attack
OP is removing bacteria from the mouth.

Everybody, please post again with comments and questions. I love hearing from you.

kebod

Thanks Kebod, also I was wondering what sort of lotion should I use on my body? I'm so used to using lotion everyday that i'm afraid if I do i'll mess something up unless there is a certain brand of lotion that is best to use while OP. For the three days i've been OP i've totally avoided putting lotion on my KP but have been using it on the rest of my body. Any suggestions? Thanks again Kebod.

Several things here. First I would like to say a little about myself. I am a 33 year old mother of 2. Both of my kids have these bumps on the back of their arms. My daughter has recently began itching and her bumps have spread to her back and butt and legs. My son's have moved to his face. I didn't know that I also have the same thing they have until I started reading this website. Mine just looks like chill bumps all of time on my legs.
A little bit of history about myself..I am very health knowledgable. I have grown up in a family where we did not eat hydrogenated oils, artificial colors, processed foods, etc. I know all about environmental allergies such as mold in houses making people extremely sick along with carpeting, paints, chemicals from furniture, etc. I have been an advocate against the dangers of vaccines long before Jenny McCarthy ever thought about it. I also am aware that many people suffer from Metal toxicity, caused from dental work, their drinking water supply, etc. I have read all the posts and threads that you guys have been here. No one ever brings up the metal toxicity factor here. Have any of you had a "hair analysis"? Metal toxicity can cause many of the problems that you guys have. And what about digestive problems such as reflux and such? These are big issues that can alter the results of anything that you try. If your body can not digest proteins from insufficient HCL then you can suffer from numerous diseases and disorders of deficiencies based solely on "malnutrition". More about that later...I am rambling.

Another thing is that I am a big researcher. I am skeptical of anyone who is selling a product or book.
If I ever pass on info. or advice I am very careful about the source with which I got my info.

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Also, we live in the city, in a rental. I wonder if there is anything out there that I can use to filter the bath water so that the clorine doesnt further dry out her skin.

My sister carries something like that at her company. I have never used it as I have well water. I don't know if she offers it on her website. But you could call. www.purelifeinc.com

I have been reading nonstop on this site for several days and made a few posts. I have an old book by Adelle Davis called "Let's Have Healthy Children". Even though I don't agree so much with her about the cow's milk and such. I am going to try Cod Liver Oil for Vit. D supplement. as she recommends.

Okay I am going to stop with this post. Seems as though I am writing a book. More later. Just wanted to introduce myself. Seems that I know many of you already. Just thought I would let you know I am here. Glad I found this site. BTW I am on day 3 of oil pulling. Using coconut oil. Will post my results.

kebod,

I was looking for a mention of what baronster said too, but my efforts were of no avail. i do have a crack down the centre of my tongue and my tongue is usually varying shades of white, i don't remember the last time i had a completely white tongue. i did some research on that and came across this:

That Furry White Tongue (Candida albicans) by Sharon Moore

RedAnnie,

I no longer have any noticable KP, so I don't know a certain lotion to recommend that specifically helps with it. But here is a recipe for my home made lotion:
Please Post: What Are Your Favorite Lotions?
Also, check out some of the other forum discussions for lotion suggestions.

Selena,

Welcome to our forum.

Many of us here have come to the conclusion that candida overgrowth may be causing KP, and it can also cause a host of digestive problems, including reflux. Many of us, myself included, are now dealing with treating candida to achieve healthier digestion and hopefully this will help KP. We think this may be the cause of skin and other disorders.

No one is selling products or books here to my knowledge, but we do share with each other information about products and books that have helped us.

I have no personal experience with removing chlorine from bath water. You have a well -- lucky you -- but it has chlorine in it? You could probably google this to learn more.

Please let us know what you think of oil pulling and if it helps.

Scarred,

A whitish tongue indicates candida overgrowth. It may also indicate additional disorders. Baronster says the crack indicates digestion disorder. Those of us with candida overgrowth do not have ideal digestion.

To everybody,

Please read this link about the new thought behind diet and fat. This is an article in today's New York Times that questions the science behind limiting fat in our diets. I am following Bee Wilder's candida program, and she advocates eating a lot of healthy fat -- organic butter, coconut oil, olive oil, etc. I'm not hungry any more since I began her diet program.
Diet and Fat: A Severe Case of Mistaken Consensus - New York Times

kebod

I was really struck by your post. The best suggestion I can give you is to go over to Curezone and check things out.

If it is a liver flush you are interested in, then I would use the simplest of the flushes. Olive Oil, Grapefruit and Epsom Salts....nothing else is needed.

The addage is for cleansing in this order:

Colon Cleanse
Liver Flush
Parasite cleanse

Colon Cleansing is so individual. I personally use Oxypowder for this. It is magnesium based. You can easily do this with Epsom Salts, but you need to know what your body can withstand. Everyone is different. Whatever your level, do a colon cleanse for one week.

Liver flush - as I said, do the basic. Forget all the other stuff. Here is a good link to the recipe:

http://curezone.com/clark/liver.asp

Dr. Clark is way into the parasite thing a bit too much I would say. Use the liver flush...forget about parasites.

For the parasites, I would only use the herb formula by Humaworm. The integrity of his formula is beyond par and he will custom make something for you if you are sensitive to anything. The good thing is his program is only thirty days and you don't have to take hundreds of pills. Here is his forum:

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757

You can go to his website via this forum.

During all these cleanses, and for ongoing maintenance, always take care of your kidneys. It's easy to do this. You can steep (organic please) parsley into tea and drink it on a daily basis. Also eat as much watermelon as you can. Watermelon is the absolutely best thing for kidneys.

So most of this stuff is inexpensive, but it all works.

I wish you great luck. If I'm not around, Kebod knows about all this stuff and can help you.

Molly

Kebod I wanted to tell you the kp on my husbands arms are almost gone. However "gone" meaning, you can barely feel any bumps at all anymore BUT you can still see where they were.

I cant tell you how nice it is to rub his arms and not feel the bumps. Now to get my twin boys to do this...

Why does OP remove bumps but not the red spots? My husband has zero bumps anymore. His skin feels really smooth. He had a pretty hefty case of OP on his upper arms and thighs. I'd say his case was not moderate.

I looked at his thighs the other day as the sun was streaming in the car. Damn if those red spots are still there. Not as many as used to be, but still visible.

He's happy about the whole thing. The man has no vanity at all!

Now, how do you get rid of those red spots anyway?

If these are inflamed hair follicles then it seems to be that KP might be an inflammation problem?

I was reading about some toxic situations and hair loss on the other forum. The same thing kept coming up...detox and heavy metals in the hair and the death of hair follicles.

There is no doubt that KP is genetic. But what if the genetic condition was a sensitivy to some metal? Like aluminum? Something that humans are exposed to on a daily basis?

Just a thought.

I wonder if a good natural metal chleation program would have any effect? Would anyone be interested in ingesting a ton of cilantro and see if anything happens? My husband likes cilantro, maybe I'll make him our test monkey?

That would mean his condition would get much worse before it gets better.

Well at least we can work on those bumps...eh?

Molly