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Old 09-05-2007, 07:34 PM
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I pulled a tablespoon of oil for approx 15 minutes every morning, right after waking up, before brushing, at least until the oil became thin and white. I used cold-pressed sunflower oil. I did this for about two months, and I could not detect any difference, whatsoever, in my KP. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether I should give it another try with coconut oil?
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: cured at last

Peaches,
Thank you for your interesting observations. It shows how important it is for us to listen and observe what our bodies are telling us. You hit the nail on the head -- we are each so individual and need to keep trying until we find the right remedy. I'm glad to hear your husband is seeing KP improvement.
Keep on posting.

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Old 09-05-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: cured at last

LCP,
It is a good idea to change to a different oil every 3-4 weeks. Why don't you try another oil and see if you have any benefits. Also, are you eating a very clean diet with omega 3 foods and supplements, drinking lots of water, eating lots of veggies and getting some daily exercise? It all adds up to better health.

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Old 09-05-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: cured at last

I am so jaded now. I saw this oil pulling posted on another KP forum, and I instantly thought it was a blatant attempt to promote something to make money.

Also, I wanted to add that I put up a Notepad on another board, if anyone wants to read it to get some ideas on how to start dealing with their KP. I actually started it a long time ago to help people.

I believe this link should work without you having to sign in. http://www.makeupalley.com/user/notepad/sencha/
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:47 PM
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Re: cured at last

Kebod,

Thanks for the response. Yes, I have a clean diet (very, very few processed foods, lots of veggies, >36+ grams of fiber, not too much meat, less than 30% total fat intake); I exercise every day (walking, yoga, biking); I take a tablespoon of omega-3, 6, 9 oil several times a week;
I do not take any prescription meds and use Advil and Tums only occasionally. Again oil pulling did absolutely nothing for me. But perhaps I will give coconut oil a try. I don't suppose it can hurt, and if nothing else, I can't imagine that it can be anything but good for the gums.
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Re: cured at last

exactly what kind of oil am i looking for. is it in stores, or must it be ordered online?
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: cured at last

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My other skin problems are itchy bumps in areas where metal touches my skin. I since have figured out it is the nickel found in most metals like buttons on jeans...and its very common. On the opposite side of my elbows (my inner arms) i have an itchy rash that comes and goes and itches about half an hour after ingesting sugary foods. I had a itchy skin around my eyes but i switched to daily disposable contacts and now it's gone. not all contact solutions are the same. I have dandruff that i suspect is caused by ph unbalance. I have seborreic keratosis on my face (common among asians and african-ams) and flat and raised moles. I know-sounds attractive eh?
Pauline - there's also a variation of KP called lichen spinulosus that is patches of itchy KP:
http://dermnetnz.org/acne/lichen-spinulosus.html

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Thanks for the response. Yes, I have a clean diet (very, very few processed foods, lots of veggies, >36+ grams of fiber, not too much meat, less than 30% total fat intake); I exercise every day (walking, yoga, biking); I take a tablespoon of omega-3, 6, 9 oil several times a week; Again oil pulling did absolutely nothing for me. But perhaps I will give coconut oil a try. I don't suppose it can hurt, and if nothing else, I can't imagine that it can be anything but good for the gums.
I find that even on days when I'm eating the best, it's hard to get enough omega-3s and 9s. Like, one day last week I had peanut butter on WW toast and a peach for breakfast, a green salad with a poached egg and raw beet for lunch, goat's milk yogurt snack and a HUGE bowl of miso soup with some rice and mustard greens in it. You'd think that would be a good bunch of stuff but if I started counting it up, there's no way that day had enough good fatty acids in it even though the egg is from my free range poultry. I _have_ to supplement myself DAILY with Omega-3s. And on a bad day with steak and french bread and cake with frosting - yikes! lots of cholesterols (some good some bad) but little EFA. And don't even get me started about omega-7 which is best for skin. I don't even know what to do, I'm thinking of trying the sea-buckthorn as a supplement since macadamia nuts are out of the question.
So, I guess I have a little challenge for you since it could also help with more info on KP and EFAs (or ignore me, whichever if is fine with me...): take your omega3s _every day_ and don't necessarily skimp on fat if it's "good" - olive oil, yadda yadda yadda. and sure, give coconut oil a chance since it has different components than sunflower. Also, grapeseed and olive have different constituent fats and are not as pricey.
btw - I'm in a region where it's hard to find anything but "canola" oil in the cooking oil aisle. Yet, I make sure I have several different cooking oils now that I know there are many different fatty acids that our bodies utilize in different ways. I have a canola/palm oil mix, cocnut oil, grapeseed, sunflower, peanut, sesame and almond. some for cooking and some for OP and cooking. - bd
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Re: cured at last

thanks bunnyday, i've checked this out but it doesn't look like anything i have. okay,my op questions are ... what is the benefit of doing back to back sessions? would it be wise to switch oils ei: 20 mins of sunfl oil then right after 20 mins of sesame oil ( because i've read that certain oils will draw out different toxins ) if i spit oil out and its not "frothy" what does that mean?
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: cured at last

pnayrb,
Look for sunflower, untoasted sesame, or coconut oils. These are the mildest for beginners. Look for cold-pressed or expeller-pressed, preferably organic. You may order on line, but if you have a natural food store in your area, they will carry them.

Please post again and let us know how OP helps.

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Re: cured at last

Hi Kebod:

I haven't found the coconut oil to begin OP.

I thought that it would be easier to find it in a Tropical Island like Puerto Rico. I will be looking for it @ other stores.
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Re: cured at last

can corn oil be used for OP?
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Re: cured at last

to Elsa Zoe and Caitlin,

Elsa Zoe, do you have a natural food store in your area? If not, you can order it on line. I thought it would be easy to find in Puerto Rico, also.

Caitlin, corn oil is not recommended. Sunflower oil, untoasted sesame, or coconut are good oils to start with. Also not recommended: canola oil and peanut oil, any toasted oil.

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Re: cured at last

yeah, ive been using sunflower oil, but were kinda running out and the only thing we have is corn oil. and i dont do the shopping
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Re: cured at last

i've also tried using virgin coconut oil and it helped improve my kp. if any of you guys are interested you can go online to order. I always get mine from www.islanderspride.com
Their coconut oil is 100% organic which is recommended for kp
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Re: cured at last

Hi there Kebod,

i have been oil pulling for a while now with extra virgin coconut oil, the lard stuff, it melts in my mouth in seconds........I use this because of the anti parasite nad anti fungal properties....as we both know candida lives in the mouth.

well, we have all looked at the oil in the toilet and sink and glass after spitting out, but I discovered if youspit into a glass and examine under flouresent light you can see all sorts of "stuff" ...

so I experimented and brushed my teeth 4 times, swished with apple cider vineagar, and then oil pulled 3 times, every time I see "stuff" and lots of it.

I use a red wine glass that has a really wide bottom, and hold it up to the light and you can see very clearly that toxic matter is being pulled from the mouth.



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