thankyou everyone who has helped answer my questions, and have taken the time to help others on here feel comfortable and as knowledgable as we possibly can. it is appreciated more than you know. kebod, i am currently using a refined sunflower oil, i forget the name off the top of my head, but i will let you know when i get home and look it up. it's not so much the oil itself. although it's not tasty(lol) it's not that bad, and i can easily deal with it. it's moreso the fact that my mouth starts to hurt and get tight every few minutes so i have to ease up the swishing so the pressure doesn't hurt anymore. i don't know if this happens to anyone else. now, i tend to be a pessimist so i'm not sure if this is really gonna help my kp, but i am going to continue to do the op probably forever...i see no reason to stop. i just hope that more of you find that it is helping the kp, b/c that is my primary goal. excuse me for being skeptical, it's just the fact that nothing at all has ever helped me, and i've tried pretty much everything in the book. my kp may not tend to be as bad as some other cases that i've seen, but it is enough to irk me, and it tends to be very stubborn and persistent! i just don't want to feel like i have to worry about this anymore, there's too many other things that i should be concerned with that have far more importance.

Well, I'm about 3 weeks into oil pulling, and the KP on my face has gone away alittle... In time, I think it will completely go away.. Everyone stay consistent! That's the key..... I do it for 30 minutes every morning before school, then rinse out my mouth twice. Right after that, I drink a 16 oz glass of spring water, b/c my mouth is dry as hell.... My tongue feels so dry, but the water helps a trillion..... Also, after I get out of the show now, I rub Jojoba oil on my face too. That helps with the plugs that were coming out of my pores... There gone in just two days of using jojoba oil.... I hope I don't break out though, but we will see.... Now, I just have bumps and redness, but the plugs are pretty mucg gone..... So. I'll keep everyone posted... Also, I wash my face with Cetaphil soap in the morning and at night... We have to stay optimistic...........


FREAKZILLA

Dre, is it possible you are swishing too vigorously? The motion should be very slow, very gentle. Your mouth and tongue should feel relaxed, not tense. Is it your cheeks that are feeling tight? Try to move the oil as slowly as you can. I hope this helps. Sunflower oil is supposed to be very mild tasting. Coconut oil is my oil of choice. I love how it tastes. I don't blame you for feeling skeptical after trying so different remedies that didn't work.

Freakzilla, that's encouraging that you see a little improvement. You have a great attitude, and that's got to make a difference also. Let's hope you continue to see a change for the better. Since you are doing it for 30 min., if the oil feels thin after 15 min., you may want to spit it out and start with a fresh spoonful of oil for your second 15 minutes. This would give you two pulls. Perhaps this is how you are doing it already.

I don't think I could add to Kebod's post anymore. True, we don't know much about Dr. Karach, since all his scientific papers are in Russian, and very difficult to get. But aside from the finding of the Ukranian studying an old Russian Folk Remedy, this has been practiced in the Ayurvedic tradition for thousands of years. There is much written about it on the internet, some in english, but mostly in Hindi. It's so popular in India, that it is advertised on the sides of buses (of course, paid for by the local Sesame Oil Company).

Seriously, we are literally forging new ground here in the U.S. I have a forum full of around 300 people, with the most amazing testimonials. Most of the testimonials are surrounding dental health benefits (cessation of gum bleeding, incredible Dentist visits and avoidance of gum surgery, psorasis, someone said that they were able to reduce the amount of kidney dialysis). This forum has only been up and running for 8 months, and the enthusiasm and interest by the members is exceptional. Many of these can be seen at the top of the forum page under "R" (recommended messages).

Lately we have more scientific people joining us there, and they are starting to look through microscopes, and give their ideas on the physiology of oil and it's healing components. It's thrilling.

So, do I welcome skepticism?...Absolutely, and I don't blame you. Do I welcome theories? Yes again, because we are all learning what this can do. After all, this whole thing is a bit wacky, I even think so. But I'm also dedicated, and have seen the results in my own family, and heard the results from many many people.

So for those that want hard solid scientific data, sorry, I am unable to provide that.

Molly

This is as close as we could get. Sorry for the long post, and it's for as much amusement (translation) as well as the only info we could get our hands on.

The following text is a translation of one of the sources from RUSSIA, pl. bear with us on poor translation.

From the Russian people medicine:
The oil therapy
Schluerfen and sucking for the health
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Lately I received the description of an interesting Russian people cure. It is common with us still few, and therefore so far also no reliable statements about the effect are possible. But finally nobody must convince itself the promised Heilanpreisungen blindly believe, but can of the soundness of the arguments and test the effect at the own body. Damage cannot develop, and as only side effect a better health can occur.
Do you try the oil therapy out also once? Then I would be pleased about feedbacks much and the experiences on gladly would pass. Here are details:
Dr. F. KARACH had held a lecture on just as simple on a conference of the allUkrainian federation of the Onkologen and bacteriologists as effective therapy. It consists of approaching sonnenblumenoel in the mouth and. Dr.Karach implemented, this simple method makes possible it to heal the different diseases completely perfectly whereby one could do without pain means with its harmful side effects.
The means is astonishing simply and for each humans easily practicably. Which differentiates and makes this therapy reliable pleasantly from other recommendations, is: Nobody can have a large economic interest in its spreading. Sonnenblumenoel has anyway nearly everyone in its household. Behind the recommendation the idealistic desire seems to stand to help the fellow men without a role plays winning vines. This tendency is to be observed in the Russian medicine often and distinguishes it.
It causes surprise and doubt, if one hears, with which health trouble the oil therapy is used. It is already nearly not to be believed that with this perfectly innocuous, biological welfare method such results of reorganization could be obtained successes, which are simply unparalleled. It seems to be something respectable at the thing. Over the mouth mucous membrane an effective decontamination of the organism takes place. There are similar basic ideas in the medicine already rather for a long time.
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Decontamination of the organism
Dr. Karach implements that the basic principle of this welfare procedure consists of it, oil in the oral cavity to suck and schluerfen. The actual welfare procedure is initiated by the human organism alone. In this way it is possible, for cells, to heal fabrics and all other human organs at the same time. Thus the destruction of the natural Mikroflora and thus the destruction of the human organism one prevent. Otherwise its biological equilibrium is attacked the life-span and in last consequence is shortened. Modern humans live thus practically around decades more briefly than possible. It can become old over 100 years.
By the oil therapy against it headache, bronchitis, toothache, Thrombosen, chronic blood diseases, Arthrose, paralyses (paralysis features), Ekzeme, like-tightness-most stifling, intestine diseases, heart and kidney complaints, woman diseases healed completely perfectly. Preventing developing lethal excrescences one prevent at the same time and also one heal, as for example chronic blood diseases, paralyses, nerve illnesses, stomach complaints, lungs and liver illnesses. It is also possible to heal many diseases which were caused by taking too much pain means.
In addition, the welfare method the sound whole organism at the same time, works preventing. This can be particularly with lethal excrescences and with Infarktfaellen from great importance. Dr. Karach reports the fact that it his chronic blood illness, from which it suffered 15 years long, so that had healed completely. Also it cured a violent rheumatism thrust, which forced him in the bed, within 3 days again.
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The oil therapy is used in such a way:
One takes 1 to 2 teeloeffel vegetable oil into the mouth. Cold pressed sonnenblumenoel is best suitable. The oil is then sucked, rinsed with closed mouth without haste and without special effort in the mouth and pulled by the teeth. That makes one 10 to 15 minutes long.
The oil may be swallowed in no case. It is first high-viscosity and becomes then more highly liquid. Now it can be out-spat. Best into the WC, because the liquid of full bacteria is, different pathogen and other harmful substances. If one spits the oil into the wash basin, then this must be thoroughly cleaned.
The out-spat oil should be as white as milk. If the liquid is still yellow, then that is an indication for the fact that that was too short mouth rinses. After the Ausspucken one cleans the oral cavity thoroughly by repeated rinsing with water and deseams the teeth with a toothbrush.
Dr. Karach says: "it is particularly important to stress that during the time of sucking and Schluerfens of the metabolisms in our organism it strengthens completes and so a durable state of health is obtained. Is particularly remarkable that after short time loose teeth strengthen, gum bleeding stops and the teeth becomes visibly whiter."
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When and how often is those Oil flushing to be made?

This question must answer the patient who is in the welfare process. Our body is good barometers and if we observe it a little, we ourselves notice that does us well. The original guidance:
"the oil flushing is made best in the morning before the breakfast. In order to accelerate the healing process, the procedure can be repeated also three times daily always however before the meal and with empty stomach. The organism is not damaged thereby, and the expiration of the healing process is faster and more effective. The oil flushings must be so for a long time made, until in the organism the original strength and freshness and calm sleep reset themselves. After morning awaking no tiredness may prevail, feel rested one should and have no tear pouches under the eyes. A healthy hunger, a good sleep and an unimpaired memory ability should have adjusted themselves.
Easy illnesses are healed unusually fast within two to four days. Chronic diseases need usually a longer time sometimes up to one year.
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Erstverschlimmerung is possible

The healing process is occasionally at first accompanied of an apparent degradation of the general health feeling. This can particularly occur with humans, who suffer at the same time from several diseases. The impression of the degradation arises mainly if begin to evaporate the individual herd of disease. It can come even to the fact that ignited disease stove in the course of the healing process could entail another disease stove affected, which still rests in the future however a serious illness. This is not no reason to interrupt the healing process also if in the meantime increased koerpertemperatur should have adjusted itself. In the opposite: One must continue that oil eyes without interruption. If it should be interrupted however for any reasons nevertheless, then one must be in the clear over the fact that the actual healing can carry out itself only during the Oelschluerfens."
This oil cure can when heavy illnesses (pneumonias etc..) the physician do not replace. It is advisable to catch up an additional medical diagnosis of the family doctor.
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How is the effect of the oil therapy to be explained?

I assume the fact that pathogens (e.g. pathogene yeasts, like Candida albicans, which are a cause of many diseases), by which in the mouth whirled oil is absorbed and exhausted.
Possibly also the information contained in the sonnenblumenoel is taken up by the mucous membranes, e.g. the sun particles high-energy, which are stored in alive food. Albert Einstein called these negatively charged solar energy particles (electrons) in the context of his quantum theory photons or light quantum. The photons delivered by the sun can commit themselves to insatiated fatty acids in a plant. Thus the fatty acids become electron-actively. Not alive food, for example factory food or cooked meals, contains this electron-active strength and does not develop our body cells not. It is food, which does not radiate and which body only loads. Briefly said: dead food.
How is the effect felt? Now, simply by the fact that one probably-feels. Our body is generally a good barometer and shows, what does to it well. Depending upon constitution can be naturally with individual humans different. We were created of our creator as individualists and originals. Only: Something patience is necessary. In nature everything goes slowly. How much time needs alone grain, until it develops to a stately plant!
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The Russian people and experience medicine

The oil cure comes of to the Russian people medicine. It is based on experience and confidence. Which is noticeable pleasantly, the idealistic background, the tendency is i.e. to help the fellow men without financial winning vines plays a role. This stands in some respect in contrast to our western medicine, where often only the medicaments at large expenditure, produced in the laboratories, are publicised, which promise, to bring large profit. Naturally it must be recognized with the fact that the development of a new medicine of the pharmaceutical industry costs large sums at money, which must pay. Ever more humans turn however in the course of the back meditation on natural ways of life to the established and side effect-free means of the people medicine.

Hi Kebod, Molly,

I started oil pulling last Sunday after reading this topic. I've never seen SUCH dramatic results so fast, except maybe with tanning, which is horrible for your skin in the long run.

The KP on my left arm is clearing up faster than it is on the right, but the right side is also looking really good. The redness has toned down a lot, and whatever bumps I had are almost completely gone, and the same can be said for the KP on my thighs. It's getting better everyday.

I'll post in another week or so with further results. Thanks for letting me know about this you guys!

wow! good for you moomagui!

moomagui, happy to hear such great results.....

I'm still doing the oil pulling plus I'm using the jojoba oil twice a day.. The plugs are gone, but my face is red, bumpy, and my pores look a little swollen... Who know's. I'm gonna stick with the jojoba oil for a few more weeks and see what happens. I'm not really using the AHA lotion anymore, b/c the jojoba oil makes my face alittle moist and the AHA lotion shouldn't be applied if your face isn't dry... I'm gonna buy some carrot juice tomorrow and drink two glasses a day and se what happens... Stay Optimistic.........................

Moomagui,
This is wonderful news! I'm so happy to hear that this can work for others! Please keep us posted as you see more improvements. What kind of oil are you using and for how many minutes are you pulling?
kebod

Oh, I forgot to specify! I'm using Spectrum's Organic Sesame Oil, and pulling for 20 minutes in the morning, before I eat, brush, etc. The coconot oil is also very alluring, so I may try that once I run out of the Sesame. I'm thinking if it does clear up, it'll take another two to three weeks. I hope it completely disappears - I've had it since I was 11, argh!

i've just discovered this site and am so thankful that i have. i have suffered from kp since i was born and i am now 20. it is all over my body and constantly inflamed and itchy. it is especially bad on my face and i cover it with make up which i assume makes it worse. I am going to start on the 'oil pulling method' and hopefully i will see the same results. Doctors and dermatologists have been able to do nothing about it and i'm very frustrated with it. I live in Australia and the harsh conditions are hell on my skin.
I will keep you updated on the oil oulling and its effects. If anyone is from Australia and is aware of any other sources of kp could you please let me know. thanks.

Just wanted to report back that after 3 days the KP on my right arm is practically gone! The left arm is improving but still rough & bumpy when I run my hand across. This is so very interesting & kind of unbelieveable. Who would think that a condition you've had for 20+ years could start clearing up after 3 days of swishing some oil around in your mouth (I actually noticed a slight change even after day 1, but assumed it was my imagination. I'm hoping that my thighs have the same improvement over time (they have always bothered me more than my arms). I have convinced myself that they will but will be sure to report back either way.

Moomagui - I am also using the spectrums organic untoasted sesame oil. I remember reading somewhere (maybe here!) that it is good to switch the oils up from time to time - different oils pull out different toxins - so will try sunflower oil after my husband & I have gone through the sesame....then maybe coconut.

Anyway - GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!



BTW - I am swishing for 20 mins in the morning before I brush or do anything. I am curious, I brush/clean my teeth & mouth well w/ toothbrush & toothpaste afterward. I just read about using salt water to clean your mouth though. Do you think this is very important to do? Curious....Thx!

Oh my gosh! How exciting!
I have been using Hain's Sunflower Oil ...but without success. Maybe Sesame or Coconut oil is better for kp!!! I'm going to give the sunflower oil a week more before I switch though!

I'm also very happy to report that the KP on my arms and on my back is has been reduced at least 70% so far. I know this stuff works because during the winter I usually have it the worst, but it's now practically non-existant. I thought it was just my imagination at first too, but after about a week it's now very obvious. There are still tiny tiny little bumps but they can't be seen at all.

I'm not going to get too excited yet but my hopes are pretty darn high given the results I've been getting. I just wanted to thank everyone here for their awesome suggestions otherwise I would never have tried this theraphy

I will keep you guys posted if my KP goes away completely, and also if my KPRF get's any better. Thanks again everyone!

Hi SiennaNoventa!

Just for the record - I have always considered my KP to be mild (didn't even know there was a name for it until a year or so ago - I just thought I have bumpy skin on my arms & thighs & that's the way it is). Of course, not sure how severe yours is.

Also, I wonder if how fast the method works (if it is going to in fact work for someone) would depend on how many toxins one has in the body??? I happen to be a nutrition geek eating as much organic as I can get....etc. This is just a guess. I just figured it is something to make a note of as we all compile our results & figure out what works or doesn't work for each of us.....& how long it takes if it does work.

Again, good luck w/ the swishing!