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This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

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Old 06-18-2002, 01:00 AM
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This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by Brynn'sMom

This remedy worked for my 9 year old daughter -- really well! It was recommended by the dermatology department at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. Please try it - it is inexpensive, and results are wonderful. After my daughter's pediatrician told me that my daugher "just has to live with KP", my fiance did some investigating. He contacted MA General Dematology Department...and after about 2 weeks using this cream we saw big improvement. Now, she is almost KP-free.

Here it is: Buy a tube of Carmol 20 cream. You have to buy this thru a website -- lots of them sell this cream -- it is about $7.00 - $8.00 a tube. This cream's active ingredient is urea. Urea, I beleive, acts as a powerful moisturizer. Urea is acidic too, and it is found, I think, in our urine. Buy the 20 version, not the 10 version. Any Carmol over 20 requires a prescription. BUT YOU DO NOT NEED A PRESCRIPTION FOR Carmol 20.

Now bring this tube of Carmol 20 to your local pharmacist. Ask him to mix into it Salicytic Acid. This works as an exfoliant - dissolving and lifting the KP plug ("bump&quot that has already been hugely softened (moisturized) by the urea. Salicytic acid also works as a pyretic - "takes the red out" of the bump. My pharmacist mixed this up for me with no problem. Salicytic Acid is also NON-prescription.

The reason you have to ask the pharmacist to mix this up for you, is because there is no cream on the market that has BOTH these active ingredients in it. There are creams that have one, or the other, in them. The dermatologist at MA General said that this combination works wonderfully IF you use it consistently....start out putting it on everyday. As times goes on, and the KP is almost gone, or gone, you only have to use it perhaps twice a week.

After you apply this mixture to your skin, let it sit and absorb for about 1 minute. Then buff it with a loufa sponge -- NOT a plastic buff puff. A real LOUFA SPONGE. You know - those tan, hard, sponge things. You can buy this in most drug stores, or beauty supply places, or Walmarts or whatever. I guess the loufa "s****es" up the softened dead skin, or keratin, or plug.

This worked for my daughter. She was really embarassed of her legs and arms -- mostly her legs. Spring was here, and she would not wear shorts, she felt so ashamed and embarassed in front of her girlfriends. Now, 6 weeks later, she is wearing a bathing suit, shorts everyday! She does the cream and buffing about 3-4 nites a week now. Her legs are smooth and clear, except for some still slighty-there stubborn red bumps on the backs of her thighs. Her calves are all cleared up, and also the front of her thighs. Her arms still have some, and that is because she did not start treating them til later (they were less severe), and she didn't keep up as a good a regimen with them. She is only 9, and I have to help her keep disciplined about this. It worked for her, and she is really happy about it.

She got this KP from her dad. He has it. I have smooth, soft skin, and I think that always made it so much more noticeable to her that her skin was "bumpy and yucky." I felt badly for her, but I couldn't get any help from anywhere. I am so happy my fiance found this cure for her.

I hope you try it,too.
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by ab

Hi; thanks for posting this information and aren't you lucky to have a fiance that will go the extra mile for your little girl?! Could you tell me how much salycytic acid the pharmacist puts into the cream? thanks, ab
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by KATRINA

I AM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTERS RESULTS! MY 9YR OLD SON ALSO HAS KP AND I AM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR HIM AS WELL. HOW BAD WAS YOUR DAUGHTERS KP? WAS IT VERY NOTICEABLE ON HER LEGS AND ARMS? MY SON DOES NOT WANT ME TO DO ANYTHING FOR HIM BUT MY 11 YR OLD NIECE DOES! I AM GOING TO TELL HER ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I KNOW HER SKIN BOTHERS HER ALOT. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE FOR YOUR DAUGHTER TO SEE RESULTS? I THINK MY NIECE GETS IMPATIENT BECAUSE SHE DOSEN'T TAKE THE TIME FOR ANYTHING TO WORK. I KNOW SHE HAS TRIED ALPHA HYDROXY. I HAVE TO SAY SHE HAS IT PRETTY SEVERE ON HER ARMS AND LEGS FOR HER AGE WHEREAS MY SON ONLY HAS IT ON HIS ARMS! IF IT DOSEN'T BOTHER HIM I'M NOT GOING TO LET IT BOTHER ME. I THINK IT AFFECTS GIRLS MUCH WORSE BECAUSE GIRLS ARE "SUPPOSED TO HAVE SMOOTH SKIN." DEFENITELY RUNS IN THE FAMILY SOMEWHERE. THANKS FOR THE INFO.
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful For My Daughter/ The Pharmacist...

Originally posted by Kristen

The pharmacist should already have these two ingredients and know how to mix this into a compound. I wouldn't rush to buy either product the pharmacy more than likely carries it. Your doctor can write a prescription for the salycylic acid compound. Which naturally would be mixed with the urea in order to put it on your skin. I am so glad it worked for your daughter. I am so fearful that my daughter will get it. Anyway I tried this compound that is how I know about it. I had to do nothing but pick up the prescription from the pharmacist when it was ready. Again any good pharmacist should know how to mix this up. I wasn't as successful, but I really hope some of u are. Good Luck
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful For My Daughter/ The Pharmacist...

Originally posted by Kristen

The pharmacist should already have these two ingredients and know how to mix this into a compound. I wouldn't rush to buy either product the pharmacy more than likely carries it. Your doctor can write a prescription for the salycylic acid compound. Which naturally would be mixed with the urea in order to put it on your skin. I am so glad it worked for your daughter. I am so fearful that my daughter will get it. Anyway I tried this compound that is how I know about it. I had to do nothing but pick up the prescription from the pharmacist when it was ready. Again any good pharmacist should know how to mix this up. I wasn't as successful, but I really hope some of u are. Good Luck
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by Brynn'sMom

Yes, my fiance gets big points on this one!

He is the one who did all the measuring/formula with the pharmacist, so here is what he said they used for the mixture: 1/10 of an ounce of 17 1/2% salicytic acid mixed into 1/2 ounce of water...and then that mixture is squirted into the tube of Carmol 20. (using a plastic syringe). The salicytic acid came in a 3 ounce bottle, in powder form. The salicytic acid is very strong -- the pharmacist should do it. We bought the 3-ounce bottle of salicytic acid from the pharmacy - it cost $7.00. Oh, the size of the Carmol 20 tube was 85 grams - the one that costs about $8.00.

The pharmacist squeezed out a little bit of the Carmol cream first, to make room for the one acid/water mixture -- not very much though, as the tube has some extra empty space in it to begin with.
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by Brynn'sMom

Katrina - I think we started seeing improvement on my daughter after about 3 or 4 days. It was pretty quick - though the difference was still slight at that point. But we could see it! Cuz we were so anxious see improvement! By two or threee weeks, the improvement was enormous -- some spots it was gone, or just about gone.

My daughter's KP is/was I guess moderate to severe. I don't really have anything or anyone to compare it to. Just her father -- but his was hidden by all his dark hair, I think! It didn't look so bad. My daughter has is BAD on her thighs....both front and back. It is more stubborn on the back of her thighs - I think because when wearing jeans (that's all she wants to wear in winter months), and she wears them tight, the rough jeans, being tight, and sitting in class all day, they irritate the KP on the backs on her thighs (and also the front just not so much). Her arms have lots of KP, but it is not red like it is on her thighs. It is not so noticeable -- until you touch it -- you can really feel it.

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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter/thanks Sandi

Originally posted by Katrina

Thanks so much for your reply. I know many people on this board are thankful for your info. I passed this info along to my sister and she has just ordered the Carmol cream for my niece. Thanks again and I hope your daughter continues to stay smooth!
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter/QUESTIONS!!!!!

Originally posted by jazzy

What percent Salicylic acid is used, how much and is it in gel or cream form?
Congrats with it working!
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter/QUESTIONS!!!!!

Originally posted by Brynn'sMom

The salicytic acid was bought from the pharmacy. I don't know, and wonder, how common it is for pharmacies to have salicytic acid on hand. We live just outside of Boston, near many research, and teaching hospitals - I don't know if this means anything, or is a stupid thought. Anyway ---- the salicytic acid came in the form of a powder, in a 3 oz. bottle. It was 17 1/2% salicytic acid. The pharmacist used 1/10 of an ounce in the Carmol 20. (first he mixed in into a little bit of water, and made it smooth - 1/2 oz of water.)
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful For My Daughter/ KRISTEN

Originally posted by JENNIFER

HI KRISTEN,

DID YOU SAY YOU TRIED THIS COMPOUND AND IT DID NOT WORK FOR YOU. WERE YOU USING THE SAME %SOLUTION. HOW LONG WERE YOU USING IT FOR? I THINK IT IS HARDER TO GET RID OF THIS ON ADULTS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD IT LONGER! I THINK THE LONGER YOU HAVE IT THE WORSE IT IS. HAVE YOU USED ANYTHING WITH SUCCESS? ANY INFO MUCH APPRECIATED!
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter/thanks Sandi

Originally posted by Brynn'sMom

Katrina - I'm really glad that you gave some "substance" to my post. I am truly just a regular, normal, everyday mom who wants so badly to help my daughter with this. OH yes , there could be worse, harsher, more horrible, and bigger obstacles, problems, issues in our lives -- in my daughter's life. But, if this is a "problem", as a mom, i cannnot help but try to "make it better" for her. That's my job, man...it just comess naturally. Frankly, if it (KP) were an issue in MY adult life, I'd work at fixing it, also. It might not be my biggest goal -- but all things in life are relavent, right? (Even if I can't spell the word relevant correctly...) And belive me, in my "adult" life, I have many, many issues that sometimes feel way bigger than my daughter's KP. But, it is only sometimes...all things in life are relevant in bigger, or smaller, ways at different times. I try always to make my daughter's life, even in her 9-year-old tender years, a huge priority. And, I believe that adults with KP, can maybe, perhaps, just almost-maybe, be bigger and better people if they can have lived with KP, and lived with it's causation of embarrasment, and maybe have made them lose even a tad of self-esteem, or social confidence --- and then to be "cured" of it, and have their real true, wonderful selves come out. Just the fact that there exists a message board for sufferers of KP, and that board is highly active, tells us something, doesn't it? ?? If life dishes out more horrible, devestating afflictions, and diseases than KP, that is no news to me. All things are relevant in life. Perhaps one person's KP, begets a wonderful, understanding, sensitive human being. Especially in children. Children can be very cruel, in their honesty, and their natural social ineptness. I wrote of what I found to be my "cure" for my daughter. I wrote for one reason only: to share with others. I want everyone else to perhaps find that this might be a "cure" for them too, or their loved ones.

Whoa...I just kinda vented...and whined, too?? Sorry...I feel passionate about perhaps helping to improve, or better, or make more comfortable other peoples' lives. I may be helping a child, or adult get rid of this "yucky" (as my daughter puts it) stuff, leading to perhaps one of you guys, or gals, or your kids, feeling better enough about themselves in the presence of others, that maybe one day, they will feel great enough to stand up in front of a crowd of 1,000 people, in the summer, in new england, in a sleeveless shirt, and make a powerful speech that might someday bring him or her to candidacy for President of the U.S. OK, I'M DREAMING.

Brynn'sMom.
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by Mel

I’m so happy to hear this combination worked so good for your daughter!! My only concern
would be that high doses of salicylic acid used consistently (over long periods) increase the risk of salicylate poisoning, especially on children. No reason to feel alarmed! this is very uncommon, but certainly something to keep in mind. I would reduce the % of salicylic acid in the compound once the bumps are under control. Mel
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Re: This Remedy Was Successful for my Daughter

Originally posted by mychellely@hotmail.com

thank you so much for sharing this cure. i've been suffering from kp since i can remember. i am now 25 years old, and i can't take this kp stuff any more. i have kp on my arms, and i've tried different treatments, but it seems that nothing ever works. how much salicytic acid does the pharmacist have to use? how much does all of this cost? will all pharmacies help out with such requests? i'm excited to try this treatment. also where did you purchase your carmol 20 from? thank you again and good luck with your daughter
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You might want to substitute Carmol 20...

Originally posted by JC

Check out <a href="http://webmd.lycos.com/content/article/1689.50863">http://webmd.lycos.com/content/article/1689.50863</a>
for the complete treatment protocol... The only problem I see with this compound is the use of Carmol 20. Carmol 20 is a product formulated for xerosis (very dry skin) or ichthyotic skin disorders. These skin types are generally not recognized as being prone to breakouts. Since the possibility of blocked follicles was not among Carmol 20 “wish-list” (I guess), product developers selected Isopropyl Myristate as the product’s main emollient. Isopropyl Myristate might be one of the most commedogenic fatty acids available nowadays. It is the major ingredient in a can of penetrating rust remover!!,
liquid wrench and causes grade one and grade two cosmetic acne. While this may not affect many with body instances of kp, it should certainly be a concern for those with secondary
acne lesions (often seen concurrently with KP). Usually, this is more evident as
you get closer to areas of the skin where sebaceous glands are most numerous:
chest, back, and upper arms and shoulders. If this is your case, you might want
to substitute carmol with Ureacin-20 Cream or Uremol 20 (cream or lotion), both of which are less commedogenic than Carmol 20.
Any pharmacy should be able to special order these products for you. JC
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