Believe me, my dear friend, I'd rather have my cheeks permanently-red rather than these gross bulky dots on my back..
I really don't know what to do, I'm using this Seabuckthorn soap for some time and my KP did get worse, but it's been stuck this worse for some time now..

sea buckthorn soap does not work!
and BELIEVE me u would not want ur cheeks permantly red instead of KP on ur back, so dont jinx urself!

try using a loofah and Irish Spring (Icy Blast) to wash ur body during a shower.

and its not a severe case of KP, thats just in ur mind. more people than u think have KP.

Jason,

Will you ever be able to accept that a product may help someone else, even if it can't or doesn't help you?

Read the sea buckthorn thread. It has helped many. We are all different and have different ideas on what we want to try and have different results, some successful, some not. Please respect the fact that sea buckthorn has helped many.

kebod

Kebod, its the same condtion it does not make sense, for it to help some and not others, people say it helped them but there is no real proof, half the people are using more than 2-3 things at a time to see what works, and they dont know what out of multiple things worked.

and orichamo is saying his KP got worse from using seabuckthorn soap, so I suggested something else, and yes I said seabuckthorn does not work, Im giving my opinion. not to mention someone wishing they had KPRF over KP, needs a mindcheck.

KP has nothing to do with demodex mites, if it did I would have read that in my copy of my biopsy from Univ of Penn, and I asked the derm if it did, and he replied no.

anyway sorry.

Jason,

Perhaps you didn't read it in your copy of your biopsy because you do not have a demodex overgrowth. I have candida, but that doesn't mean you have to have it,also, because we both have KP.

Do you think there is only one cause of KP and only one cure? I don't. It is unfair to others to say a product or remedy does not work, especially when others are reporting success with it. Sir Duckles would not have started her thread on Sea Buckthorn if she hadn't had sucess. Give others the opportunity to try it for themselves and then make a decision as to whether it helps them or not.

Sea Buckthorn won't help everybody. To say that it "doesn't work" is not being fair to the people who have had help with it. None of us are in the postion to say a product can't work. We never know for which one person it may make all the difference.

kebod

ok, but I had a top derm at the first hospital in the USA, tell me it does not have to do with demodex, and that everone has demodex mites even people who dont have skin condtions.

Jason,

Yes, everyone has demodex mites. Not everyone has demodex mites where the population has exploded because of a compromised immune system or other health problems. If you had read Sir Duckles first post, you would have read this.

Everyone has candida, also. Not everyone has candida overgrowth caused by taking too many antibiotics or a messed up immune system. The problem happens when these two organisms (demodex mites or candida) get out of control.

Most allopathic (conventional) doctors do not recognize that there is any such thing as candida over-growth. We who have the symptoms know otherwise. I've never read any evidence that says dermatologists understand the cause of KP, therefore, how can they understand what doesn't cause KP.

Why should we think that dermatologists know everything about KP? If they did, we might already have a solution.

Because there is no known single solution, any possible solution should be investigated, without announcing it "does not work", unless you qualify that statement and add "for me".

kebod

I read it, she is a model not an expert, her before and after pictures have different lighting, the whole demodex thing even she says is a THEORY, she also thinks KP and ROSACEA are similar, how ? KP is a keratain disorder, and rosacea is a vascular problem. sea buckthorn soap does not work for me. soap any soap might just dry it up and look less noticable, what she should have done was to try a average soap for 2 weeks and evaluate, then try sea buckthorn soap for 2 weeks and evaluate and see if u get the same results.

Thank you for sharing, Jason. Meanwhile, I hope anyone who wants to try Sea Buckthorn does so. To read more about SirDuckles success and the sucess of others with Sea Buckthorn:
The Sea Buckthorn Treatment Guide

kebod

OK, thanks for the critique.

in answer to the question which is worse, KP or baldness... as a woman i have to say i can't understand why men get so freaked out over baldness. i have been very attracted to plenty of balding men, and i consider myself picky!!! if it really bothers you, you can shave your head for a cool, radical look. unless you live in europe, where skinheads=nazis. you don't want to be mistaken for a nazi.

then again i wouldn't be put off by a guy with KP, either. i'm put off by my own KP, but i've had the hots for guys with KP and with acne all over their bodies... usually by the time i discover that i'm already in bed w/them and already pretty hot for them. it's never been an issue.

i did once date a guy with pretty bad psoriasis and that started grossing me out, but he had skin flakes coming out of his ears (literally) and skin falling all over the place. but that wasn't why i broke up with him - i broke up with him because he turned out to be really clueless. it was him being stupid that drove me over the edge.

attraction is a complicated and mysterious thing and it only hurts us to be isolated and surrounded by impossibly-perfect images of people in the media. real people are full of imperfections. now, if only i could convince myself of this, it might help me to stop obsessing and become less dreadfully depressed. ack!

the thing is... i only have kp on my lower legs. and if i don't shave for a while, the irritation/redness is gone obviously. i'm wondering if it's the shaving aspect for me. i've been "diagnosed" with kp, but i'm just wondering if any of you think that there's another way of me to go about getting rid of the hair that will give me different results. also, does kp often spread? i've had this on my legs for about 5 years now, and it hasn't gotten better or worsened, or spread to anywhere else. but should i be worried that it will? =/

this should really be happening over in "women's issues" ... but anyway, for me the jury's out w/regards to shaving. mostly, shaving is just a big pain that is way too labor-intensive & time-consuming for me to manage it on a regular basis. i use an epilator most of the time "satinelle" but another brand is "emjoi" which pulls the hair out at the roots, like waxing. i am so bumpy anyway, i can't tell if the results are better or worse than w/shaving. and it does lead to some ingrown hairs. but i think it's better than stubble or dragging a razor over the bumpy skin.

my therapist happens to have KP and she says she never shaves because that would irritate it more. instead she uses "moom" (available in health food stores) for "sugaring" (it's like waxing, but the application & cleanup are way easier.) i noticed her lower legs today as she was wearing capris, and it didn't look like she had KP at all. but she takes really good care of herself in every way.