Well what's the difference between KPRF and KPRF atrophicans?Is KPRF atrophicans synonym of ulerythema ophryogenes?

This is my grasp on it all:
KPRF is keratosis pilairis rubra faciei - a red KP rash on the face - it does not damage the skin in any permanent scarring way (except if you pick!)

KPAF is keratosis pialirs atrophicans faciei - this is used to describe the conditions that 'atrophys' or damages the skin. Under this term the following variants are often put:

Ulerythema Ophryogenes (UO) - this is when the eyebrows are affected and hair on the outer third is lost

Atrophoderma vermiculata (AV) - this is where the top of the cheeks are effected resulting in small pit like depressions. This condition is sometimes termed 'honeycomb atrophy' because of the 'honeycomb' patterned scars it leaves on the cheeks.

Because Uo and AV are reasonably rare you will find that derms from different countries and areas may call UO - KPAF or AV - KPAF.

I have UO and AV and my official diagnosis is KPAF with the variant AV. I tend to not use the term KPAF a lot as it can be a bit confusing. So I say instead I have UO on my eyebrows and AV on my cheeks.

Hope this makes sense

So...my derm was wrong she told me that I have UO but my eyebrows are not affected at all and I've got rash only on my cheeks w/o any scaring. It looks like this:
http://www.dermis.net/dermisroot/en/34408/image.htm

maybe she's wrong 'cause it's so rare and she couldn't remember the difference.

That looks like KPRF to me. Its what I have but mine is more red and the reddness is close together without any open areas.

it's not picture of my face

here you can see my skin:
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10058411zz2.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?i...0058401ce4.jpg

in real it's much more red and I've got a lot of bumps

Yes that's KPRF (Keratosis pilaris rubra faciei) - unless you have red KP over the outer part of your eyebrows and have hair loss in that area you don't have UO.

I posted on the UO site recently the english translation of Ulerythema Ophryogenes (I imagine this word is latin or greek??)

Ul - means scar
Erythema - means redness
Ophryo - means related to the eyebrows
Genes - i guess means something to do with genetics.

It is not uncommon for derms to get definitions confused as it is rare and when you read some of the older literature about it you notice that the English use different terms than the Americans.

You mean my pics?

Yes - looking at your pictures that is what I would call KPRF. Others may wish to comment but it definately aint UO.

I'm glad that it is KPRF. I wouldn't like to have rosacea. I've had IPL treatments (2 times) with some temporary improvement - now I know why.

In those pictures your KPRF doesn't look all that bad, I've seen a lot worse.

It's just the picture - in real it looks not so good.anyway thanks

Could you explain me why skin with KPRF is so red?Do you have visible capillaries?

D-man5655 here you can see 'better' pic of my cheek.
http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1006034pf8.jpg

D-man5655 what do you think of my pic?
http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1006034pf8.jpg

is it KPRF for sure?it was confirmed by three derms but I'd like somebody who has KPRF to say it...