Drastic Improvement with Magnesium Lotion!

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    Drastic Improvement with Magnesium Lotion!

    I have posted here once or twice before. My original idea of progesterone cream was a flop, ended up making me very sick with yeast and bladder infections and didn't do much for my kp... but that's a whole different story.

    Ok, so I actually ordered Biogenics Magnesium lotion off of Amazon for a different reason. I get extroardinarily tight muscles from running and working out and did some research on what could be the cause. Found that I might be magnesium deficient and that this deficiency causes a whole host of other issues that I've delt with including depression, sleep disturbances, skin problems, migraines, IBS, etc.

    So anyway, I started using it on my neck and calves and within 20 minutes of applying it, I can feel my muscles relax and my posture seems to straighten out, it's the oddest sensation! But what is really amazing is that I remembered the threads about Epsom salt and that when trying that I had had a little success with my kp... soooo, I started putting this lotion on my arms about a week ago. Holy bananas! My skin is clearing up!

    I honestly think that this goes hand in hand with the calcium concept. I am taking a calcium supplement as well, but magnesium and calcium are interrelated and we definitely need both. I have also read that our bodies have a very tough time absorbing magnesium from oral supplements and that most of us do not get enough in our diets. I can honestly feel the effect of the magnesium lotion more than I can a supplement, so I think that this must be true! The biggest thing is that my arms are starting to look almost normal!!

    I also wanted to ask if any of you have other issues like I do? Do you suffer from fatigue, stomach issues, or anything else? I would just like to know because Im sure that the kp is just one symptom of a larger problem and I know that others agree. I really, really don't think that we all have kp for completely different reasons. I think that this has to do with a problem absorbing or utilizing specific vitamins/minerals/nutrients needed for the body (including the skin) to function properly. However, the reasons for malabsorbtion or inability to process might be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my2dudes View Post
    Found that I might be magnesium deficient and that this deficiency causes a whole host of other issues that I've delt with including depression, sleep disturbances, skin problems, migraines, IBS, etc.
    KP plus these other symptoms, malabsorption of magnesium and especially IBS, make me think of celiac disease or gluten-intolerance. It is possible for other things to cause malabsorption but since there are 2.7 million undiagnosed celiacs in the US alone and more worldwide, there's some chance.

    I can honestly feel the effect of the magnesium lotion more than I can a supplement, so I think that this must be true! The biggest thing is that my arms are starting to look almost normal!!
    again, if intestines are damaged from celiac or someother intestinal issue, key nutrients may not be absorbed including but not limited to Vit A, zinc, iron, B12, magnesium, calcium, fatty acids, you name it.

    I also wanted to ask if any of you have other issues like I do? Do you suffer from fatigue, stomach issues, or anything else? I would just like to know because Im sure that the kp is just one symptom of a larger problem and I know that others agree. I really, really don't think that we all have kp for completely different reasons. I think that this has to do with a problem absorbing or utilizing specific vitamins/minerals/nutrients needed for the body (including the skin) to function properly. However, the reasons for malabsorbtion or inability to process might be different.
    The first 2 questions I could have answered YES to before diagnosis. and I think there are probably quite a few cases around these forums that are undiagnosed gluten-intolerants but not everyone. Not everyone who has a stuffy nose has a cold and I don't think everyone who has KP has celiac. My KP becomes easier and easier to smooth out and there's less and less of it the longer I have been gluten-free.
    - bd: 46 yo F; Dr. Woods Black Soap w/Shea Butter for facewash; Sea Salt + Epsom Salt scrub in shower; Cetaphil RestoraDerm unscented lotion, Alba Botanica Kona Coffee After-Sun lotion on face; reg. exercise; OilPulling; a basic multi-vite plus calcium/Vit D, o3s; eating GLUTEN-FREE DIET for Celiac Disease, and not much dairy as I get allergic reaction; Arms 99% clear, face neck chest 98%, legs 90% clear, butt is 99% clear. All dietary treatments above help reduce my sinus congestion and joint pain besides help my skin.

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    You know, Bunnyday, I am pretty sure that I do have Celiac. Right after my first pregnancy, I had such severe stomach distress that I had some blood tests done. It came back positive for one type of wheat intolerance but not specifically celiac. I was going through a very rough period in my marriage (since divorced) and never made it back to the gastro dr. I am waiting for insurance through my new job right now and cannot wait to go back for further testing.

    I have tried to stick to a gluten free diet but find that I mess up on a regular basis. It's so hard! However, at this point with all the trouble I'm experiencing, I am pretty determined to make it happen. Bunnyday, have you had problems with your eyes and teeth? I honestly feel like my body is falling apart.... guess I better heal my gut and quit snooping into the kids' snack cupboard.

    How have you been doing since sticking to a gluten-free diet? I mean, not just with the KP but overall health?

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    Quote Originally Posted by my2dudes View Post
    You know, Bunnyday, I am pretty sure that I do have Celiac. Right after my first pregnancy, I had such severe stomach distress that I had some blood tests done. It came back positive for one type of wheat intolerance but not specifically celiac. I was going through a very rough period in my marriage (since divorced) and never made it back to the gastro dr. I am waiting for insurance through my new job right now and cannot wait to go back for further testing.
    What year was this? The most recent tTg test has only been out a few years, I think it was accepted into general practice in labs in 05-06... something like that though its big clinical debut was in 03, right after my post-pregnancy horrible stomach distress. It's pretty sensitive but of course when the next even more sensitive test comes out, they'll say it wasn't that sensitive... It might be worth re-doing testing especially if you were already showing a positive immune response to gliadin or something since the newer test should, in theory, be "better." Some labs won't do the tTg if the anti-gliadin tests are negative but I get the idea that the big names in celiac research ONLY recommend the tTg. Some people have a positive anti-gliadin test but not a pos. tTg which seems to indicate they are reacting to gluten but possibly don't have intestinal damage yet. In that case, some Drs treat those patients as pre-celiac and recommend they go GF - but that is not the conventional approach. Generally you have to have damage before they tell you to go GF. it's kind of goofy imho...

    I have tried to stick to a gluten free diet but find that I mess up on a regular basis. It's so hard! However, at this point with all the trouble I'm experiencing, I am pretty determined to make it happen. Bunnyday, have you had problems with your eyes and teeth? I honestly feel like my body is falling apart.... guess I better heal my gut and quit snooping into the kids' snack cupboard.
    Don't get me started on teeth! honestly. They have never been good. My eyes have stabilized, as in, my vision has not been getting any worse since going GF which is good - I have a fairly strong near-sight-prescription. I have fewer cluster headaches behind my right eye - they made me a bit light sensitive. Some gluten-intolerants have horrible migraines till they go GF.

    It is pretty easy to mess up the GF diet, especially for the first couple years. I feel really ill when I get glutened so it's easy for me to try hard to stick with it; I don't want to feel sick and tired all the time anymore. I've had enough years of that! But don't beat yourself up, there's learning curve to it for everyone. and don't go GF if you want to have accurate bloodtests.

    I don't find it that hard anymore. There are so many products out now that are GF and if you eat unprocessed foods, there are lots that are naturally GF: rice, potatoes, meats, veggies, nuts, fruits, there's so much! there are oodles of GF snackbars now: KIND, Larabar, SOyJoy, etc... There are tons of premade noodles and breads: tinkyada, ancient harvest, DeBolles Rice pastas, Udi's GF, Pamela's mixes, Glutino. the lists go on and on. The ony tricky part for me is there is little choice where I live for restaurants and fast foods but it's not impossible either.

    How have you been doing since sticking to a gluten-free diet? I mean, not just with the KP but overall health?
    My overall health and mood are enormously improved. My energy level is better. I have fewer fevers. My skin is gradually but consistently getting better. My premature-ovarian failure stopped in its tracks and now I'm just a regular pre-menopausal mid-forties woman in that way. Cramps are not nearly as bad. My sinus allergies have lessened - I can actually sleep without antihistamines. My aches and pains lessened a lot - I can sleep without ibuprofen. Calming down that immune system is really beneficial!

    Years of vitamin and mineral absorption can take a toll on various systems of the body. Celiac is considered a multi-systemic disease because it can present in so many different ways.

    more info
    Lots of good but conservative info on testing here (by conservative, I mean this Dr tows the standard medical line about celiac disease and doesn't give much info on gluten-sensitivity in the absence of conventional tests though she does admit there are false negatives): Confirming a Diagnosis of Celiac Disease - Consults Blog - NYTimes.com

    and some posts of mine where I ramble on:
    worst case of KP treated naturally-Success story on page 76

    worst case of KP treated naturally-Success story on page 76

    Good quotes from a leading researcher:
    Glutenfreeda.com: About Celiac Disease, Diagnosis, Allowed and Disallowed Foods, Living with Celiac.

    such as:
    There is no "typical" celiac case. Most people with the disease, according to Dr. Murray, have general complaints like intermittent diarrhea and bloating, or they may have no gastrointestinal symptoms at all. The symptoms of celiac disease also can resemble those of other conditions such as irritable bowel syndrome, gastric ulcers, anemia, skin disorders or a nervous condition.
    - bd: 46 yo F; Dr. Woods Black Soap w/Shea Butter for facewash; Sea Salt + Epsom Salt scrub in shower; Cetaphil RestoraDerm unscented lotion, Alba Botanica Kona Coffee After-Sun lotion on face; reg. exercise; OilPulling; a basic multi-vite plus calcium/Vit D, o3s; eating GLUTEN-FREE DIET for Celiac Disease, and not much dairy as I get allergic reaction; Arms 99% clear, face neck chest 98%, legs 90% clear, butt is 99% clear. All dietary treatments above help reduce my sinus congestion and joint pain besides help my skin.

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    You are right and wrong. Magnesium Chloride does help dramatically with KP symptoms. It dissolves the calcium deposits in the skin follical. Inflamation causes the calcium deposits. This contributes to the little red bumps known as KP

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    Regarding using the lotion for KP I have read several posts and information on the internet about how to use this, leave on skin, wash off after 20 mins etc.

    Can you tell me how you applied the lotion and did you have to dilute this at all etc?

    Thanks

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    I have experimented with the Magnesium Chloride (Magnesium Oil) for about 2 months now. I am currently diluting it 6 parts water to 1 part Magnesium oil. After showering and drying off, I spray it on the affected areas and leave it on. This is working for me.

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    Thanks for the reply. Yesterday I brought some spray by Better You, Original formula and last night was the first time I used it.

    As this is a very thin oil I spent some time working it into my skin it feels a little strange being on the skin but it may take some time getting used to it.

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