Hello. I'm new to this site, and after perusing the threads, I noticed that the topic of 'diet' gets far less recognition than those about creams, lotions, oils, and other products and treatment methods.

I wonder if we can arrive at some interesting data if we all write down the kinds of foods we eat (the foods we tend to like the most) and don't eat (things we tend to dislike); I'm interested to see if we can deduce any significant claims from our contributions. I'll start.

Foods I tend to eat the most:
-meats (ground beef, chicken, fish, tofu)
-cheeses (cheddar, mozzarella, swiss) <even though I'm lactose sensitive>
-starchy foods (white rice, fried potato-ey products like french fries and hash browns)
-whole wheat bread
-vegetables (brown onions, cabbage, broccoli, peppers, zucchini)
-condiments (ketchup, ranch dressing)
-oils (canola, vegetable)
-junk food (salty snacks like chips)

Foods I don't eat that often, or enough of:
-pork, lamb, lean beef
-oats, cereals, nuts, beans, lentils
-fruits (don't eat enough fruits at all)
-vegetables (kale, dark lettuce, corn, sweet potato, radish, squash, carrots)
-liquid dairy products (milk, yogurt, ice cream)
-oils (olive, grapeseed)
-coffee or tea (I'll have a cup every now and then)
-chocolate (again, once in a while)
-red wine

Even while making that list, I came to the startling conclusion that I'm not getting enough good stuff in my diet!

Please feel free to contribute, and good luck!

Ok, here's what I usually eat. I'm a vegetarian, so don't look for any meat...

Morning (I wake up at 1 p.m.):
Depending on what I feel like eating...
* apple Muesli with skimmed milk
* 1/2 liter coffee
OR * 3 eggs per week maximum
* fruit: orange, apple & 5 slices of pineapple
* yogurt
* piece of Turkish bread
* 1/2 liter of ginger & apple tea with lemon
OR * toasts with a ton of butter & honey or home made strawberry marmalade (not made by me, but by one of my mum's friends, muhahaha)
* 1/2 liter coffee

Then I eat at 7 p.m.
Rice, almost daily. I cannot live without rice. I make the most delicious rice you can imagine. No kidding, I even have neighbors & friends of mine that order my famous rice, hehehe. I should move to India...
So, rice or rice noodles that I combine with:
* lentils, beans or dal
* soy or products that are derived from it (tofu)
* all kinds of fruits & vegetables made in different ways: lots of onions, curries with coconut milk, ginger, tamarind, mushrooms, peppers, peanuts, carrots, garlic, coriander, mango, tomatoes, lemon, cabbage, spinach, sesame seeds, cashews, pine nuts, dates ...
* I use a lot of spices: turmeric, curry, masala, cayenne pepper, Black cumin seed, coriander powder, saffron...
* I alternate oils to cook in: sesame, olive, sunflower, peanut...

I don't always eat rice!
* at least once a week I eat pasta with red or green pesto, cheese sauce, vegetables in white sauce...or Vietnamese noodle soup
* at least once a week I eat potatoes/samosas or Quinoa
* at least twice a month I eat vegetable Tajine with couscous
* I also eat fried plantains (patacones or platano frito)

Around 11 p.m. I eat more vegetables (steamed, fried or salads) or some bread with cheese or soup.

I put Jamaican hot sauce on EVERYTHING. It's about 4x hotter than Tabasco. I consume about half a bottle per week...

Between meals I eat protein bars, nachos, an apple or a yogurt. Or a lot of Halal candy (though lately I haven't been eating it that much).

I drink about 2 liters of water daily, no sodas. Apart from that about 1 liter of tea or coffee.

I don't drink that much alcohol. Once a week 4 glasses maximum, but I usually stop after 2...

Occasionally I eat ice cream. Once every 3 weeks maybe, I'm not such a fan... I prefer sorbets, which I do eat at least once a week. A childhood friend of mine owns an Italian ice cream house, so I get everything for free cause I designed his company logo, menus, business cards etc. I admit, it was an evil plan of mine...

I think that's about it...

xoxoxoxoxo

What I eat:

My candida diet: salad (organic greens), sardines, eggs, range-fed beef, broccoli, zucchini, wild-caught fish, sauerkraut, pesticide-free tomatoes, coconut oil, olive oil, 3-4 liters of water a day.

My "cheats": walnuts, yogurt, dry coconut, cheddar cheese. "Cheats", because they are not allowed on a strict candida diet, but I have to go off diet sometimes, as otherwise, this diet is impossible.

kebod

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My treatment: Oil pulling daily; candida diet (minimum of carbs, no sugars); omega-3 from canned salmon and sardines; sun exposure 10-15 minutes, 3 days a week, without sunblock; program to strengthen immune system; probiotic supplements; lots of water; moderate daily exercise; exfoliation with epsom salts and sugar several times a week. KP reduced 99%. If I go "off diet" -- grains, sugars, etc. -- or stop oil pulling, KP returns.

Hey man. I also think that there's too many threads about creams, lotions etc. I mean, dealing with the symptoms is fine, but ideally we can solve the ROOT of the problem.

And in my opinion, THE root of the problem is DIRECTLY related to Vitamin A. Either we are deficient in it or our bodies process it very inefficiently.

Why do I say this? Because making chicken liver a regular part of my diet has done WONDERS to reduce my KP. Animal liver contains THE most Vitamin A of any food.

You can check out the thread I made about it in the Treatment Options section of the forum.

Simply put, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that KP is related to Vitamin A.

Oh, and just for the hell of it, here are some things I eat pretty often in my diet:

-Water
-Vanilla Coke Zero
-Chicken Livers
-Chicken pita wraps
-Grilled chicken salads (w/ lettuce, corn, beans & Lite Vinaigrette dressing)
-Protein shakes
-Toquitos
-Applesauce
-Oatmeal
-Blueberries
-Spinach (also high in Vitamin A)
-Beef jerky
-Turkey pepperoni
-Tostitos w/ bean dip

But yeah, most of that is really irrelevant IMO. Biggest thing is chicken livers.

Also, I suspect that refined sugars & bread aggravate KP but can't confirm this.

This might be true for you. But I actually had an analysis done to see if I had any malabsorption problems, but I don't. I'm not deficient in any vitamin/mineral/enzyme etc. either...
Just for the fun of it I did take large amounts of vitamin A supplements over a period of 3 months and didn't notice any difference at all. I simply took them because I read somewhere vitamin A deficiency could cause scaly skin.

Have you considered the possibility that the chicken livers are working because they contain high amounts of essential fatty acids (omega's and branch omega's like GLA). After all, it's what most animals are fed when they're EFA deficient.

xoxoxoxoxo

Dunno. It's a possibility. I too took Vitamin A in capsule form and didn't notice much of a result.

However there was also a period of time where I focused on getting EFAs -- eating fish, sunflower seeds, AND taking EFA supplements, and I didn't really notice a difference.

Also, drinking carrot juice helped, but the results weren't this dramatic.

I think it's the coupling of Vitamin A + animal meat honestly.

I could be wrong of course, but I don't REALLY care as long as the improvement continues.

Also, could be a possibility that people with KP need more vitamin A than the average person. So I wouldn't dismiss livers simply because a doctor told you that you're getting the normal RDA. Aside from this, the "normal" RDA of vitamins is set extraordinarily low.

The thing is, I see people going in circles trying out different creams, wasting money on website products, trying "spiritual cures" and going the homeopathic route. And really, who am I to judge? But I just can't help but empathize with these people because I don't want them to waste any more time.

I'm telling you flat out, I have/had one of the most severe cases of KP I've ever seen online or off. I've been on this site for over two years trying all sorts of things. And the chicken livers are kicking the asses of every cream, lotion, and supplement I ever tried in terms of results.

I feel that from the overall tone of your post you've already dismissed the livers simply because you had a test done... and we ALL know how wonderful and infallible the medical community is

People have NOTHING TO LOSE from trying this. It's not like i'm saying "hey, go to this site and buy this cream." ... I stand to gain NOTHING from this. People can check my post history if they want. I've been here a long time searching for something that works, like everyone else.

I have keratosis pilaris and the livers work for me. Point blank period.

AS ALWAYS, beware of OD'ing on vitamin A and keep a keen eye out for symptoms. But if you have KP and you want it to be gone, you got nothing to lose from trying the livers.

That's all. Maybe I got a little carried away, I just felt like you were discouraging others from trying livers by saying "This might be true for you" as if I'm some anomoly... and then further trying to refute the point about Vitamin A playing a role by saying you were tested and aren't deficient.

Who knows really? Maybe people with KP evolved from cavemen who had an insane amount of animal liver in their diets. Thus the scientific community sets the "standard" RDA and it's way too low for people with KP.

I'm not saying that's the case and I'm not encouraging people to brazenly consume mass amounts of Vitamin A without discretion. Just throwing that out there as a possibility for why passing a vitamin deficiency test with flying colors might be meaningless in the big picture.

Chill dude. I was only making a suggestion. I said it might be true for you because a lot of ppl on the forum probably don't have a deficiency. But it doesn't mean the livers won't work! Livers have tons of vitamins, minerals etc... that can be easily absorbed, which is definitely better than taking pills. And I know very well that the RDA's are not well established. I wasn't asleep during molecular biology class.

I don't discourage anyone from trying anything. I just want to invent something that works for everyone. That's why it's important to find the relationship between the 'cures'.

So don't get hyped up... I DO believe the livers can help.

xoxoxoxoxo

Believe me people, it's nothing to do with the food! It's the excess keratin. Don't stop eating what U like, at least
KP shouldn't take away the happiness we get from eating our favourite foods. We are not 'Diabetics' for god's sake!

And your evidence of this is what, exactly?

For me, it is a lot to do with food. Carbs and sugars make my KP return. Granted, I have candida, and maybe when that is cleared up, I will be able to eat carbs and sugars in moderation without any problem. But for now, the food link is indisputable.

Maybe KP is caused by excess keratin, but what is causing that ? There is always an underlying cause.

kebod

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My treatment: Oil pulling daily; candida diet (minimum of carbs, no sugars); omega-3 from canned salmon and sardines; sun exposure 10-15 minutes, 3 days a week, without sunblock; program to strengthen immune system; probiotic supplements; lots of water; moderate daily exercise; exfoliation with epsom salts and sugar several times a week. KP reduced 99%. If I go "off diet" -- grains, sugars, etc. -- or stop oil pulling, KP returns.

Ok! Whatever! You can go on and avoid supposedly "KP increasing" foods! It ain't holdin' me back from eating what I want!

Same here...

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Glad U found it funny!

someone! catch ravs009! chain him down for his own good!
(I used to be _extremely_ skeptical over what I thought were very weird diets. that came back to bite me on the behind with a big chomp. celiac disease. maybe you don't have that or one of many things that can cause absorption issues but if you don't know for sure, if you haven't tried, you may not know what a huge change it can make in the quality of your life. I get the idea that Lot has tried and it wasn't key but you may not know till you try cause even if a blood test comes back negative, they are not infallible. celiac esp, there are plenty of false negatives)

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- bd: 45 yo F; I stopped scrubs, using salicylic acid after shower + homemade lotion; Burt's carrot soap or clean&clear on face; homemade body butter with Citric Acid as AHA; reg. exercise; OilPulling; a basic multi-vite plus Vit D, o3s, spirulina; eating GLUTEN-FREE DIET for Celiac Disease, and not much dairy as I get allergic reaction; Arms 95% clear, face neck chest 90%, legs 90% clear, butt is 99% clear. All dietary treatments above help reduce my sinus congestion and joint pain.

I guess it can't get worse than having KP all over your body!
But what the heck, I have KP now and I already have my share of health problems, I do not deserve this 'celiac' s***!