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    Hello all,

    This Forum is so helpful and I thank all the people who have taken the time to post. This is my first post and wanted to contribute something after recieving so much.
    I am black african, chocolate coloured (yummy ) and suffer from a lot of skin problems. I have inherited a lot from my parents which include ichthyosis and KP. I have really dry skin all over my body including my palms and soles of my feet (which are extra dry) Plus due to my skin colour I suffer from hyperpigmentation on my knees. However I am quite a happy person. I use to let this stuff get me down, but now at the age of 21 I am quite happy with myself and dont let my 'imperfections' effect me.

    There arent really many posts for people of colour, which is a shame. What may work for fairer people will not necessarily work for ethinic skin tones, and could be potentially dangerous, especially in regards to using acidic forms of topical treatment (glycolic acid etc). I suggest anyone of colour, especially chocolatey like me should not use anything stronger than 20% glycolic acid on their skin and SHOULD ALWAYS USE A STRONG SUNSCREEN LIKE 40SPF or hyperpigmentation will ensue.

    Also there have been a few discussions about black/dark spots on legs. If you skin is smooth with these dots, I am not sure you can get rid of them. Fade creams will only lighten your skin and maybe will make the spots stand out even more! Due to my chocolatey (I love chocolate) skin tone my dark spots dont stand out too much.

    I have seen lots of celebrities with these spots on their legs. They only seem perfect because they have been airbrushed in magazines or even in real life. Most celebrities use makeup to cover up their imperfections, especially on their legs. I have attatched two pics of beyonce. In one picture you can see her legs are perfect, however in a close up you can see the tiny dark hair follicles on her legs.(click on images for close ups)

    I am not entirely sure if you can get rid of the dark hair follicles. Also I am sure fairer complexions and white skinned people also have visible hair follicles.
    I would like this to be discussed further and see if anyone has any suggestions, or we could all do as beyonce does and use lots of baby oil for nice smooth legs
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    Re: Visible hair folicles spots on legs dark and fair people

    Hi auggi,

    Thanks for your post. I am too a woman of color and I agree with many of the things your post said. Finding treatments for people of color is not just hard on this forum, but I have also found it to be the case on the internet. Most of the cases that I have come across on the internet talk about red bumps when I want to yell out that my bumps are brown because I'm my skin is brown...GEEZ

    This could explain why I have been so unsuccessful treating my KP. Even my dermatologists have given up on me. They have given me creams that have burned and over dried my skin. Well, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

    I have also tried the skin bleaching creams and they have done nothing for me, but just ruined my favorite towel. I'm honestly thinking of sticking to my jojoba oil (which is great for dry skin and hair) or maybe Iíll try coconut oil. My bottle of 100% pure jojoba oil lasted me about 6months and it works wonders.

    -B
    P.S. Thanks for the Beyonce pics. They make me feel better about my legs. I believe that one day my legs will need less retouching than hers LOL

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    Re: Visible hair folicles spots on legs dark and fair people

    Hello bri18,
    Thanks for your post. I am going to try some internal remedies, as topical treatments alone do not work for me. I have started taking lots of oils internally (flaxseed, evening primrose oil and vitamin e) in hope of my skin appearance improving and not looking so dry.

    Yeah dermatologists are even worst for people of colour because they have no idea about our skin. I have found most of my solutions and rememdies on the internet.

    I have found pure glycerin mixed with a few oils such as vitamin e, almond oil and jojoba oil works wonders and is nice and cheap . Creams containing Urea are also not bad.

    Plus I have started brushing my skin daily to rid myself of dead skin and keep my bum looking good

    Plus I found this post on Black hair forum, which is really informative.

    Black Hair Media Hair Forum: Lil Dots on Legs-Think I Found Sumthing Good......

    However I am not up for spending so much money on creams. Maybe once on twice, but since treating KP is a lifelong commitment, expensive creams are not an option for me (unless i win the lottery)

    Anyway if you find any more information or have anymore tips please post.

    Ps: Yeah those pics of beyonce made me feel more normal and goes to show even celebrities with millions in the bank cant get away from KP.

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    Re: Visible hair folicles spots on legs dark and fair people

    I also found some information about Kat Leverette
    Urban Skin Solutions for acne, razor bumps, dark spots, uneven skin tone, scalp problems and scars.

    I found out about her from the link I posted in my last reply. She has successfully treated KP for people of colour and could be an answer to our prayers
    Check out her website. Very informative.


    keep the posts coming !!!

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    Thanks for those links. After spending so much $$ on creams and going to different dermatologists I have realized that no one knows my skin better than me.

    I have started eating healthier. I switched to eating brown rice, cut out dairy ,eggs, and sugar. I exfoliate everyday (I have to be careful I don't over do it which tends to happen). I eat many vegetables (including carrots bc i cannot see myself drinking carrot juice) and fruits. I have started drinking more water than before, and I take Fish Oil tablets (they seem to make my skin look shinier, and that's about it). Maybe Flaxseed would have better results. I also started eating tuna.

    Unfortunately, I'm an unemployed recent college grad so I do not have much money to try new things. For now, I'm sticking to the things I mentioned above and showering with neutragena's body wash. I also bought the KP body scrub a few months ago...$55 down the drain I think, but I have no choice but to keep on using it.

    I'm a little worried about this new diet I'm doing. I cut out gluten, milk, sugar, eggs (to the best of my knowledge/it's hard to find products free of these ingredients) which doesn't leave me many food choices. I'm afraid I'll start losing weight. I'm already very petite. I've been reading that when some people lose weight the appearance of their kp seems to diminish, but I'm so tiny and my kp seem so evident..agh!

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    I read other post about people trying the Sea buckthorn soap and oil....i order them so in a few week am gonna post my result

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    I've been a little unfair to my legs. During my 2nd exfoliation ritual yesterday I noticed that they are looking better. My left leg much better than the right one. I really want to try the coconut oil. I used to try jojoba oil after the shower, but I just ran out. I like using oil better than creams or lotions. A good oil is great for the skin. It makes the skin look awesome and feel amazing. Anyone else feel this way?

    Please share your results. I'm anxious to know how it all goes.

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    Sea buckthorn soap and oil, that is interesting. I might try that if my current routine provides no results. I agree with you bri18 about the oils. I think oils are really good for the body. I love vitamin e and almond oil and sometimes mix this with pure glycerin. Glycerin is amazing and affordable, and is the ingredient most heavy creams contain.

    I will post my results in two weeks, as i have just started my routine. I am a believer therefore I am sticking to it. So far 3 days into it and I am good. Mind you I have to do this routine (if it works) for the rest of my life, so i have to keep it as simple/basic as possible otherwise I wont stick to it. If it is as simple as brushing my teeth then I am all for it! I am not sure about the foods though. I have been eating wheat, gluten and milk based products for a long time and to try and go cold turkey on them wont work... i know it!! However healthy alternatives to these foods I can manage.

    Those special KP creams are way to expensive for me, especially for long term use. I know people mix their own glycolic based creams, buying glycolic acid on ebay and mixing it with creams. However with mixing your own concotions you have to be careful, maybe do small patch tests. I bought this really good glycolic acid cream from America, for 8 pounds, and it was better than the glytone stuff! I checked the ingredients in the cream and they were all really simple and basic things you can buy yourself cheaply. The only problem is finding out the correct quanities to make it up yourself.

    any i will stop with the essay . ciao

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    Re: Visible hair folicles spots on legs dark and fair people

    Quote Originally Posted by bri18 View Post
    I'm a little worried about this new diet I'm doing. I cut out gluten, milk, sugar, eggs (to the best of my knowledge/it's hard to find products free of these ingredients) which doesn't leave me many food choices. I'm afraid I'll start losing weight. I'm already very petite. I've been reading that when some people lose weight the appearance of their kp seems to diminish, but I'm so tiny and my kp seem so evident..agh!
    FWIW - I cut out milk, sugar, eggs and restricted wheat some years ago, I did get very thin, didn't need much sleep, had energy. BUT my skin was even worse with KP than ever. Looking back on it I wonder how much of it was because I didn't eat much fat of any kind. Probably a few nuts a day and an avocado once in a while could have been enough if that was the case.

    You might want to ask kebod how it's going for her, She's a vegetarian I believe and eats a lot of cocnut oil and other veg fats. If you don't eat those yet anyway... I personally think (at least in America) the fear of fat in food is unfounded.
    see this interview for more if interested:
    frontline: diet wars: interview: gary taubes | PBS

    -bd

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    Hi Bunny and Bri,

    I also do not eat anything dairy, sugar, or gluten. However, I eat lots of organic eggs, non-farmed fish, and lots of oil -- about 4 tablespoons of olive oil, 4 tablespoons of coconut oil and lots of organic butter every day. (This is all part of my candida diet). I'm thin, but I have always been thin, so the diet hasn't made much of a difference.

    I can't emphasize enough how important it is to get good fats in your diet. Omega 3 oils are found in salmon, tinned sardines, walnuts, and flax seeds. Other good oils are found in avocados, eggs, nuts and seeds.

    The standard American diet is often lacking in good oils and fats, leaving people feeling hungry instead of satisfied after a meal. To compensate, they eat more, increasing their caloric intake and gaining weight. A diet with enough fat is not a diet that results in being overweight. To the contrary, you feel energetic and tend to burn up calories.

    Bunny is right -- the fear of fat is unfounded. We have been brainwashed, and the medical community and nutritionists are only now beginning to say we need for fats.

    kebod

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    Thanks for your posts Bunny and Kebod. I'm amazed at how good my legs are looking. My kp seems to be diminishing in some areas. This is something that I had not seen happening in a long time.

    The only thing that I can think to be responsible for that is that I stopped eating eggs ( I cut out eggs about 1 week after I cut out gluten, wheat, dairy & sugar). I think that not eating egg might have something to do with the results I'm seeing. At the beginning of this week I started using coconut oil and kerasal ointment, but I don't think it would give me those great results in a few days.

    I also started eating many fruits, including many bananas, I remember a post on this site when a user mentioned that bananas really helped his condition. I need to search the site for the post and the internet for more information on the properties of bananas.


    I'm still modifying my diet and eventually I plan to start eating some of the items I cut out and see what happens. Honestly, I don't feel bad cutting eggs out of my diet. I always ate them, but they never did anything [good] for my skin.

    Kebod, how's your kp? How has your diet helped your condition?

    Bri
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    Re: Visible hair folicles spots on legs dark and fair people

    Bri,

    I can't really say that my diet has made a difference in my skin. I am on a candida diet to control a fungal infection. Prior to starting the diet, I had seen very good results with my mild KP by oil pulling. The KP bumps diminished by 80 -- 95 %. Many of us have food allergies or sensitivities, and a very healthy diet can help our overall health, somethng that surely has to help skin health, as well.

    kebod

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    Re: Visible hair folicles spots on legs dark and fair people

    hello,

    just wanted to give a bit of an update. i have started taking flaxseed and evening primrose oil, plus i have been brushing my skin daily. My skin is feeling a lot smoother, especially when i moisturise with glycerin and jojoba oil. I havent had any of the black dots on my leg disappear. I am not too bothered about them at the moment, as my skin is looking smoother and i am a bit more cheerful. I hope to get even better results in the long term, and therefore will remain faithful to my routine.

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    Finally, information that I can relate to on my skin condition!! This forum is great. But unlike some of you, I am bothered by the skin discoloration as a woman of color. I really wish there were a solution to smooth out the bumps and even skin tone simultaneously. I have been to a few dermatologists over the years... thinking, hoping or praying the one of them would have come across the magic solution. Recently, I visited a female dermatologist who is African American and was disappointed that her only recommendation was Glycolix (18% GA cream), although she did offer to have an offsite pharmacy mix up a potion containing 20% GA.

    Question for anyone who may know: I have heard that BHA (beta hydroxy) actually absorbs better and deeper at the cellular level than does an AHA solution. Is this something one of you has direct experience with from past trial and error?

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    i'm pale as heck and i HATE my visible hair follicles... grr.

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