This thread made me smile. You guys are so great. I am so glad I found this site. How did things turn out DOC 18?

i wont to know how everything turned out for doc18 already!

were did you go doc 18?

in my experience, having kp has not really had any negative effects on my romantic relationships.

once you're actually to a point where your clothes are off a guy's thoughts will be elsewhere and he isn't going to be checking you over like a doctor for red spots--dim the lights a little if you are still feeling insecure.

maybe thats true in your case stephanite, but thats doesnt apply to most of us. you must not have kp to bad.

johnE,

Not everyone out there is so superficial. You seem paranoid and pessimistic. No offence intended. I have pretty bad Kp and it has never scared anyone off. Not everyone cares. If you didn't have Kp and someone you met did, would you reject them? Seriously, think about it. If you would than maybe that's were your outlook comes from.

hello mikew, no offence taken. when we really get down to the meat and potatoes of this issue, Yes i would reject someone who had kp. asuming i didnt have it,, and asuming i never had it, and i didnt know much about it. I would reject a women as a lover or girlfriend. but i wouldnt reject them as a friend. of course.
Mike thats just the way we are as human beings, its not mean, its ingrained in us. its evolution.
if you really think about it you'll see that too.

JohnE, I disagree with on some level. Sure, many people are shallow, but I don't think their are enough people who could care less. I see men and women afflicted with dwarfism and other physical condition get married and have good family lives. I think the killer with KP, is no one knows you have it, until they see you with little to no clothes on. A person who is sufering from dwarfism can't hide anything, so if someone show a romantic interest, the chances of rejection for that reason is nill. So, like with any situation, there's a good and bad side. I have a cousin, so has been paralyzed from the waist down since he was 23 and he's 38 now. He's always had a girlfriend. However, like the prior example, woman already know upfront, so they won't act funny or lose interest like they might do whe they she your skin for the first time. I'm just so self-conscious because with my clothes on, I've always been told you could model, you're tall, attractive face and a nice physique (it would be way better, as KP saps my motivation at times, since I'm 95% covered up most of the time anyway). So, the feeling of heightened expectations to be physically attractive in all facets, places more pressure on you. I remember a woman on her stating she was asked to tryout for a modeling job and when she had to wear something showing her legs and she could see the photographers facial expression go south, when he saw her legs. I'm basically trying avoid a "serious relationship" until I can at least render the appearance of my KP unnoticeable vs. an absolute cure. Turquoise, KP Nurse, Baronster have all found methods to keep their skin looking somewhat normal. I 've been so busy with work and show, I haven't been able to get my Vega test and all my topical products and dedicate 6-8 of laser-sharp focus on my diet and topical regimen. I guess in the back of my mind, I don't want to start, because if I commit so my time, energy and money to this, only for it not to work, I will start to fell like nothing will ever work short of it just going away on it's on someday. I'm a only child and the pressure from my parents (especially my mom and grandmom) to get married and have children is insane. They don't know I have KP, since it start until I was like 19 or 20. I was able to hide it well at that point for everyone. I guess I don't want to be the "charity case" and I don't want people in my business, trying to cure me and asking me to life my sleeve to anybody with a nursing or medical degree. I definitely think it's tough, when you keep it secret, but I guess if I can get it under control somehow, nobody will really be the wiser.

Excuse the spelling and grammatical errors, as I hit the "Submit" button by accident, before I could proofread my posting.

Revised Copy: JohnE, I disagree with on some level. Sure, many people are shallow, but I think they're enough people who could care less. I see men and women afflicted with dwarfism and other physical conditions, who get married and have good family lives. I think the killer with KP, is no one knows you have it, until they see you with little to no clothes on. A person who is suffering from dwarfism can't hide anything, so if someone shows a romantic interest, the chances of rejection for that specific reason is nill. So, like with any situation, there's a good and bad side. I have a cousin, who has been paralyzed from the waist down since he was 23 and he's 38 now. He's always had a girlfriend. However, like the prior example, people already know upfront, so they won't act funny or lose interest like they might do, when they see a KPers skin for the first time. I'm just so self-conscious because with my clothes on, I've always been told you could model, you're tall, have an attractive face and a nice physique (it would be way better, as KP saps my motivation at times, since I'm 95% covered up most of the time anyway). So, the feeling of heightened expectations to be physically attractive in all facets, places more pressure on you. I remember a female member of this forum, stating she was asked to tryout for a modeling job and when she had to wear something showing her legs, she could see the photographers facial expression go south, when he saw her legs. I'm basically trying avoid a "serious relationship" until I can at least render the appearance of my KP unnoticeable versus an absolute cure. Turquoise, KP Nurse, Baronster have all found methods to keep their skin looking somewhat normal. I 've been so busy with work and school, I haven't been able to get my Vega test and all my topical products and dedicate 6 to 8 months of laser-sharp focus, on my dietary and topical regimen. I guess in the back of my mind, I don't want to start for fear of failure. If I commit so much time, energy and money to this, only for it not to work, I will start to feel like nothing will ever work, short of it just going away on it's own someday. I'm an only child and the pressure from my parents (especially my mom and grandmom) to get married and start a family is insane. They don't know I have KP, since it didn't start until I was like 19 or 20 years old. I was able to hide it well at that point from everyone. I guess I don't want to be the "charity case" and I don't want people in my business, trying to cure me and asking me to lift my sleeve for everybody with a nursing or medical degree. I definitely think it's tough, when you keep it to yourself, but I guess if I can get it under control somehow, nobody will really be the wiser after the fact.

skinE, everybodys going to read you first post because its at the top and then skip over your proof read virsion. haha. thats kinda funny. why not just edit the first one?

"I see men and women afflicted with dwarfism and other physical conditions, who get married and have good family lives."

yah, truedat. but most of the time they meet and marry other little people. that makes alot of sence. just as much sence as people with kp marring other people with kp.

"Sure, many people are shallow, but I think they're enough people who could care less."

-people who dont want to be in romantic relationships with people who have kp are not shallow.

-yah maybe kp doesnt bother some people. but im sure it would hert potentially romantic relationships with a person who doesnt have kp. and im positive that it will greatly reduce your "market value"[ i like to use market value when im talking about a persons likely- hood to get what ever they wont out of a romantic relationship. for example a persons leage .when someone says: is that girl in your leage. or that girls out of my leage.]{ i just think its funny and true}
what im saying is that a person with kp is more likely to date a person below there leage. their amount of fish in the sea is reduced. they would have more fish available if they didn't have kp.


"I haven't been able to get my Vega test and all my topical products and dedicate 6 to 8 months of laser-sharp focus, on my dietary and topical regimen. I guess in the back of my mind, I don't want to start for fear of failure."


"the only thing to fear is fear it self " Franklin D. Roosevelt

-it is our responsablity to our own quality of life to try and beat our kp.
we shouldn't fear falure. if we ever expect to see any results we have to take risk.
but the only risk is losing hope. but if we expect the worst to always happen then there wont be any disapiontment. wright?

Check out my thread (Cured by KPNurse)

none of the people i dated ever cared about my kp. i never brought it up and they never mentioned it. my husband couldn't care less about it. he thinks i'm nuts to worry about it at all. and no, mine is not a mild case. i have it on my arms, legs and face. it's good to keep it exfoliated and moisturized so your skin feels smoother, and try not to pick. dim lighting helps a lot -- i prefer candlelight. makes everything look better

I've never had any problem with boys really, nobody has ever commented and when I've mentioned it they never seemed to think it was that important.

xx

I am afraid of the same thing! I am not unattractive, but the fear of rejection is very real, and to the point that I haven't tried to get a girl friend for a very long time! Yes, I have been hurt a few times in my life! I am 39 years old, 5'9" at under 160lbs. male with green eyes and fair skin and have just given up most of my life trying to cure this affliction! I am very affectionate, but soo not gay, and the thought of a women with a similar affliction rubbing me down with oils and creams to control Kp sounds great to me! I would be glad to reciprocate. If I go to work smelling like a candy bar, people might get the wrong impression, being an electrical contruction worker, but it would be worth it to me! Seriously, most of my past girl friends didn't seem to notice it untill I had been with them for a while, or I told them! I guess they just thought I was cold and had goose bumps! In high school, I had a black light in my room, which hides all the red dots and makes it look like you have a tan when you do not. My girl friend at that time thought I had great skin! If any women that live in the east bay area of CA, feel free to contact me!