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Old 03-23-2007, 08:56 PM
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By sensitive, you mean mildly allergic, right? I'm sorry, I missed most of this thread and I'm not about to read through the 9 pages to find out if you ever do, in fact, define "sensitive".

Recently, I have been seeing an ENT ( ears, nose and throat ) doctor. I have been tested very mildly allergic to many foods (this must be what you mean). As well, I have many minor to major allergies to foods that I intake daily. I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure only good things will happen to my skin once I begin avoiding these food allergies, with a good chance of seeing an improvement in my KP.

If you do mean very mildly allergic, then I suggest getting these allergies treated like I have begun doing -- meaning you will no longer be allergic to these foods at all, and can once again resume a diet without tremendous limitations. You will have a good chance of improving the condition of your skin as well ( not speaking directly to the person who began this thread as you state you already see benefit). Also, there are many other allergens besides food allergens. I would like to point that out to everyone as *food* seems to be a huge topic around these forums. Other allergens that could effect the condition of your skin include: mites, dusts, pollens, etc.

If you do not mean very mildly allergic by "sensitive" then I would like to know what this doctor means, scientifically, by the word. It will be hard to take this finding seriously if sensitive just means sensitive. I'm a strong advocate of avoiding habitual "cures", meaning I have to avoid things, keep doing a long list of things every day, etc. If you understand the science behind why habitual treatments work, I'm positive there is a permanent treatment to avoid all the lifestyle changes.

Also, anyone who hasn't had their allergies tested: get that done. My parents always told me I wasn't allergic to anything. This is nonsense. I am allergic to many things. Don't assume you have no allergies just because you don't have to go to the hospital when you intake or are exposed to allergens.

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Old 03-23-2007, 10:29 PM
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I am so happy for you...it seems you have found someone who will be able to treat you and understand this condition without having to educate them.

I can't hardly wait to see your results. You mentioned your husband, does he have KP too?

Again I am very excited to see your results and follow your progress, and I'm dying to know what she prescribes to heal your gut.
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Cool re: allergies vs. food senstivities

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Originally Posted by rachel18
Hey baronster and everyone, how you guys going? I posted a thread a while back on autointoxication....which is usually a result of LGS. I had cut out dairy, and wheat completely from my diet and did see my kp clear up some what but not completely. However my kp did not completely clear up until after i had 'detoxed' my digestive system of pathogens using antibacterial/antimicrobial herbs and cleansed the liver also. By doing this within 2 weeks my kp diminished incredibly and now my skin is so clear it is amazing.

My results and your results baronster are almost identical and we used the same treatment strategies, so i think this is definitely the key to treating kp.

This is how i see it, when you eat foods that you are intolerant to such as dairy and wheat our bodies do not have the ability to digest it because we are deficient in the enzymes to do so. And instead of these foods being broken down into tiny minute molecules to be absorbed in the small intestine, they are not and go into the small intestine as large molecules. These large molecules are hard to absorb and instead do damage- hitting the intestinal wall causing inflammation, and overtime eventually increasing the permeability of the intestinal wall which leads to leaky gut syndrome (i hate this term). Other things can lead to this permeability including dysbiosis/candida infestations wreaking havoc in the digestive system. When the intestinal wall has an increased permeability all sorts of molecules/nutrients are 'leaking' through the permeable intestinal wall (which it doesn't usually since this wall shouldn't be permeable!) into the blood stream. These molecules/nutrients in the blood stream are considered 'toxins' which puts a huge strain on the liver because this organ has to detoxify everything in the blood. In turn your body tries to get rid of the toxins as effectively as it can since your normally good functioning eliminating organs can not do their jobs properly (1. digestive system 2. liver) Your body then starts excreting the toxins through your skin, which we see as KP (bumps on the skin)

Therefore the treatment strategies are:
1. Eliminate foods out of your diet that you may be intolerant to; eg wheat and dairy, so that it is not causing inflammation and LGS in the digestive system in the first place.
2. Use antimicrobial/antibacterial herbs to get rid of the candida/dysbiosis in the gut.
3. Use supplements such as glutamine, aloe vera, slippery elm, marshmallow to heal the gut wall (LGS) these herbs and nutrients have the ability to reduce inflammation, sooth inflammation, and heal the intestinal wall.
4. Detoxify your liver because your liver is already struggling with the burden of a lot of toxins in the blood stream because of the LGS. Without liver support at the same time you may see that your KP get worse before it gets better. Herbs include st mary's thistle, dandelion, barberry.

Anyway it's awesome that someone has also had the same results as i have with a similar treatment.
If you just reading this thread and don't want to read previous pages I suggest you pay attention to this reply.

It will basically give you an idea what leaky gut syndrome is, and how to heal it.

My experience was a bit different that Rachels, as my doctor gave me the remedies to heal my gut, where Rachel did this on her own.

Most of the websites give a list of herbal remedies which you can do on your own

If you google "leaky gut syndrome" you will find that food senstitivies or allergies along with other ailments such as skin conditions is a sign that you are suffering from this syndrome.

Just for the record I did have allergy tests, and I was allergeric to NOTHING at all.

this may or may not be the right time for you to hear this, so you will know if this makes sense to you.

There is so much information on this syndrome, i suggest you take a few mintutes of your day and read up on it. The one I liked above all was the one rachel18 put a link up for on page8 I think. called "opposing digits."

I did a search on this forum for leaky gut syndrome and someone back in 2005 was talking about it, but no-one seemed to pay attention to it.

Rachel18.....can you help me out here? I know you would be able to answer questions like this much better than I. We have the same results from doing almost the same remedy, but you have a background in this, and your thread on autointoxication was very good. i want to invite you to share this thread with me as we are two people on different continents who healed our bodies.

Your perspective would be much welcolmed and appreciated.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:13 PM
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Stella if you are willing to try anything to heal your body, why wait until August?, read what rachel18 has to say about what supplements to take as you need to heal your gut to get real improvement.Watch out for nuts too, they tested bad on Renegades test and mine as well.

i just want so bad for you to be able to wear what you want, especially liviing in the South, it would be hot, even when it is not sunny.

Most of the websites I read, said that this conditon starts from taking antibiotics or the "pill" or eating food that is contaminated with parasites or bacteria, and that is how this all starts.

I just put Rachels reply on page 10 so people could read again what she has to say, because I feel that is very important for people to understand and be open-minded, try and report back to this forum, so others can experience excellent health and smooth glowing skin too.

Good luck
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Baronster,

I talked with my friend who is a student at Bastyr and she personally hadn't heard of Vega testing but mentioned electrodermal and from going back and reading the thread, sounds like they are one in the same? She is currently doing clinicals so she's going to ask around. I am going to pursue an appointment at the clinic there and see if I can get the same testing you did and I'm 100% signed up as guinea pig!!

Stella,

After going back and reading the entire thread, sounds like you will be in my neck of the woods in the coming months. Bastyr university is in Kenmore which is NE Seattle area, it is one of the leading naturopathic medicine universities in the US and they have a clinic there too so you could get some treatment closer to home. I will let you know what I find out. If I don't get anywhere there, we can carpool to Vancouver

I'm definitely at my wits end, I had a good cry today about something unrelated but the tears stung and burned my face....ouchy! I'm so ready to begin the healing process and the more I talked with my friend today, the more it confirmed what i'd already felt and thought about, that this needs to be treated from the inside out, topical lotions, laser treatments, chemicals on the skin are not treating the source of the problem and will only provide temporary relief. And the bonus is that treating from the inside out brings everything in your body back into balance with the additional positive side effects just confirming that our bodies have been in need of some cleansing and balancing out!

Take care all!
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Divaspice I read you story an another thread, I think you wold be a great candidate for this, and even better as a guinea pig as you have many conditions, and some are severe.

I am gald you found the testing where you are, and yes they are the same test!

Sounds like you are ready for change.....can you take before pictures? I think it would be extremely helpful, as you don't just suffer from Kp, but kprf and UO, and if you have a complete healing, it might give hope to others who are suffering.

let me know when you are getting tested.
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vega test

if i wanted to get this vega test, what kind of doctor would i be looking for? a dermatologist? and how much would it be in the US? thanks
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Hi Baronster - I live in Vancouver too! You mentioned in a previous post Dr Nari Pidutti I found her office (springs eternal on broadway) so will call her on Monday to set up an appointment. It doesn't mention much about resolving skin disorders on her site. I would be interested to know what food sentivities I may have.
I did a candida cleanse way back and it didn't do much for my kp. I've always thought there is something lacking in my diet - I've been reading from the posts and other sources about flaxseed oil. A cure may be a combination of what to avoid and what to suppliment.
thanks for all your information! Baronster contact me directly if you like, it would be fun to meet and share.

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Old 03-24-2007, 05:54 PM
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I went to a naturopath. But some people are having a hard time finding a naturopathic doctor who does the Vega or electrodermal testing.

Someone else found at a acupuncturist which was referred by N.D.. Which my doctor does as well. So try those two sources and let us know.

Google "the American Association Of Naturopathic Physicians, and you can serach your city and state for Doctors.
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So you live in Vancouver? Lucky you.....

No she doesn't mention skin conditions on her website......I don't know how much of this thread you read....but I didn't go to see her for my KP......It was a fluke that I found her and she treated her own KP, and offered a solution for mine.

Anyways, about the supplements, may I suggest that you just follow what she says.....i am not sure if you read about LGS on this thread, but if you have that you have to follow her advise to heal your body and your skin.

Do you mind sharing how long you've had KP? Is it in a bad state? Where is it on your body, do you have just bumps or red dots as well?

Also, i don't know if you read this either but people are volunteering to be guinea pigs and take before pics, and report results back to this forum, so others may benefit, if you are up to it, we would like to hear from you.

Cheers and good luck....
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:03 PM
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That's a shame
No, I haven't been there yet, as I had to cancel my appointment this week. However, I am going on Wednesday. - I'm so excited
I'll keep you posted.

Ha en mycket bra weekend!
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hey all

i'm kelsey, i'm 14, and i have serious Keratosis Pilaris. but thats the least of my problems. i won't bore you by whinging, but long story short, i have low grade endometriosis and cystic ovaries, and i am seeing one of the six besy gyno's in aussie because i have one of the most unusual cases in history. its low grade, but i suffer CONSTANT REALLY BAD pain. i go to school maybe two days a week. medications don't work for me. zoladex gave me such a serious reaction i was sent to a neurlogist cuz they thought i had a brain tumour. danazol dehydrated me so bad i was on a drip in the hospital, with giant itchy painful welts on my body. this is just the beginning of what i've gone through. anyway, because all of the medicines i tryed don't work, and my gyno can't figure out why i have such serious pain, i am going to have to undergo a series of MORE dangerous operations, and if that doesnt work, i'm going to have a nerve cut in my pelvis so i can't feel my pain, i have been referred even higher up, too the most prestigious gyno in victoria. look, after all the blood tests, operations i've had, x rays, and embarrasing examinations, i've come to the conclusion doctors cannot help me. lol that was the short version of my problems! isnt that sad? anyway, what i was going to say was i've seen that other problems people had disappeared with this, so do you think that (i know it couldn't take away my endo) it could take away the PAIN of my endo? so that i could be a normal kid??? i havent done PE in three years, and i can't go on school camp. i also LOOK horribly sick. people always ask me if i have, like, cancer without the chemo lol. so could this take taht away? omg i just realized how long and whiny this post is, i'm sorry! anyway, if anyone has ANY suggestions AT ALL PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE respond, or email me at : ********************@hotmail.com
hope i didn't bore you too much!

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