I don't just judge all women similarly, I judge all human beings in a like pattern, as this underlying patternization of human acceptance is fundamentally the same. Variance in someone's qualities to me is the result of the human condition. Why do women (and men) "deceive" and hide what they really feel?... Because they want love from others to be spontaneous and mysterious and something the person does naturally; not because they told them to. I'm not trying to blame anyone here. The reasons for these things is well-founded -- but sometimes it's good to make light of what's going on underneath it all.

I prefer to steer away from hierarchical classifications of human worth in scenarios like this -- I suppose that's a personal choice i.e. someone being "low" if it's not hurting others. This fine gentleman was asking the honest truth about women, I tried to answer his question in a very general way that would deal with broad topics beyond just KP. Am I arrogant? I'll let you decide. Face it: money and power are generally attractive, deal with that novelty however you wish. I never said I espoused this notion within the realm of my moral values, yet I feel that someone's comfort is their own, and if it's not hurting anyone, why debase them for it? If it's how they get attention and are able to be loved... why try and take that away?

On similar point, I sympathize with those who are troubled with how greatly physical qualities are weighed. It *****s at my brain that this is such an important factor in life when it is largely something that someone has no control over. My heart sinks when I realize how little I deserve because of my appearance and how oddly I present myself when I'm in pain constantly becasuse of my skin. I wouldn't want to be around it either -- I realize this. I greatly appreciate the worth of physical qualities beyond words. I would be lying if I said I didn't envy those who were endowed with such an effortless grace. Simplicity is beautiful. I'm glad you are a *fairly* (need for qualifier) simple girl, but realize that the simplicity of your life is largely based on how easily you gain attention and are able to be loved. The pain that I feel due to the fact that I cannot live with this ease of obtaining these priceless commodities is beyond words. I would have chosen this lifestyle first as well.

Cycloverid

You can take it whichever way you want

BUT......
I totally understand what you are saying. In the perfect world we look at eachothers souls but in the real world we ARE just attracted to money power and physical beauty. And most times you must get burnt before actually looking past that but even then ......

So i ask this question for the ladies???????????????

You seeing a guy at the moment and a rich handsome charming guy comes along and he is very interested in you....Would you give in to him , stay with your ordinary boyfriend but always wonder WHAT IF , or stay with your boyfriend and dont think twice about Mr Jake Gyllenhall ever?

if i never knew "keratosis pilaris" was a skin condition i would never think anything of it..if a man i was with had it i probably would have never noticed it or cared about it..i think everyone is such an individual it depends on that person..a lot of men (and women) get turned off by a slight physical imperfection..but there are others that don't think twice about things like that..i once dated a guy who was everything i thought turns me on physically..but then i dated a guy the entire opposite of that.. and the second guy i was actually more attracted to...i think it all depends on the individual

Cycloverid

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Simplicity is beautiful. I'm glad you are a *fairly* (need for qualifier) simple girl, but realize that the simplicity of your life is largely based on how easily you gain attention and are able to be loved

If I'm interpreting your statement correctly, I would have to beg to differ. I have only ever been in a relationship once and it ended on very bad terms. I don't believe that I gain attention very well nor am I able to attain someone's love easily as I am not a particularly confident person.



What you feel and are going through is totally understandable. I'm not saying that there aren't people out there that don't judge a person by their physical appearance and their possessions. There are and it sucks. If physical appearances could be taken out of being one of the factors in the game of attraction, then all of us here would have a companion of some sort. What I'm saying is that it's not totally unimaginable that there are people out there that look to inner beauty more than outer beauty. Yes, those types of people are probably rare but they're not non-existent.



As far as claiming to "love" someone based on their possessions, can I just say gold-digger?! Yes, it would be smart to be with someone in which you don't have to live your life as a beggar on the streets. But only being with someone just so you can have an extravagant lifestyle is not real love and affection. But I'm digressing. I don't know everything that you are going through and can't possibly imagine how tough it must be deal with. I'd give you a hug right now if I could



And to the guy who initiated this thread to begin with: No, I would not care if he had rough, smooth, or even rainbow colored skin. Just as long as we get along, love each other, have common interests and he doesn't cheat, lie, or steal from me. If a woman doesn't like you just because of your kp, then she's probably a superficial type of person.

keepingthefaith:

If the girl is already attached and willing to stray at the drop of a hat (that hat being a loaded rich guy), then she and her current bf probably weren't meant to be.

I suppose but i think temptation is a ***** and can confuse people's judgement

Me i dont care i just want my kp to go away

I can't help but point out the irony in "keeping the faith" :P

Cycloverid,
i understand how you feel, but i just want you to be aware that it is not only males who get "looked over". Im female, and i have very much the same experience as you. I have never had a boyfriend, i am always the single friend, the guys i like always go for my prettier friends. It used to bother me, but i have adopted a new attitude(or at least im trying, there will always be a bad day). I keep myself busy, a good example is (upcoming)valentines day, I HATE IT, so im going to work the whole day(incl. night).
good luck, dont be so hard on us females and lets all pray that sumone finds a cure for this damn KP ****

We all judge people based on these things, to varying degrees. We all judge -- our brains work off relative notions/concepts that are compared from one logically quantifiable heuristic deduction to the next.

If what you say is true, you could love a homeless person, you could love a woman, an alien, a rock. Albeit, that would have to be one damn funny rock! What exactly are you trying to convince me of? This is one rather strange rubric for finding your significant other! ....C'mon, we're human, and for the most part we don't "suck" that bad.

I hate having KP, and I personally think it's unattractive. But, if i found myself with someone else who had it and i didn't have it at all i don't think i would really care.

All I'm trying to convince you of is to not give up hope. Hell, I'm still trying to convince myself that too, seeing as tomorrow is Valentine's day....sucks! And if I were really really psychotic and tripping on some mad 'shrooms, then maybe I would settle for that rock. But I'm still looking for "the one" who is willing to overlook my flaws.