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Old 06-04-2006, 08:54 AM
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Question Do you know if you have VITAMIN A Deficiency?

Has anyone here had their Vitamin A levels checked, is it possible to do? I found that a common symptoms of Vitamin A deficiency is: urinary tract infections plus Follicular hyperkeratosis of the skin. I used to have problems with urinary infections & KP is hyperkeratotic. I'd really love to know if others are Vitamin A deficient? I am going to call my doctor on Monday to see if I can be checked, apparently Vitamin A (retinol) is fat soluble sometimes you can you have enough Vitamin A but vitamin A storage and transport are defective. So it might be that my balance of protein-energy is not right. Another really freaky fact is that it binds with your DNA to regulate gene expression which seems to correspond with the theory that KP is genetic - sorry I'm not a specialist but this seems to make sense to me. Also I hate driving at night when I have to dim my lights for oncoming vehicles I feel it is so hard to see ( I wear glasses for driving but I am not made to wear them). Please let me know whether you have been tested. Thanks . I'll re-post after consulting my doctor, bear with me I work in an open-planned office & it is sometimes hard to juggle this.

An excerpt from www.merck.com

Vitamin A (retinol) is fat soluble and is found mainly in fish liver oils, liver, egg yolks, butter, and cream. Green leafy and yellow vegetables contain -carotene and other provitamin carotenoids, which are converted to retinal in the mucosal cells of the small intestine. Retinal is reduced to retinol, then esterified. Most of the body's vitamin A is stored in the liver as retinyl palmitate. It is released into the circulation as retinol bound to retinol binding protein and prealbumin (transthyretin). The 11-cis isomer of retinal (vitamin A aldehyde) combines with opsin to form rhodopsin, the prosthetic group of photoreceptor pigments in the retina. In somatic cells, retinol is converted to retinoic acid, which combines with receptors that bind to DNA and regulate gene expression to maintain epithelial tissues and guide differentiation of a variety of other tissues.

Secondary vitamin A deficiency may be due to inadequate conversion of carotene to vitamin A or to interference with absorption, storage, or transport of vitamin A. Interference with absorption or storage is likely in celiac disease, sprue, cystic fibrosis, pancreatic disease, duodenal bypass, congenital partial obstruction of the jejunum, obstruction of the bile ducts, giardiasis, and cirrhosis. Vitamin A deficiency is common in protein-energy malnutrition (marasmus or kwashiorkor), principally because the diet is deficient but also because vitamin A storage and transport are defective.
Symptoms and Signs

The severity of the effects of vitamin A deficiency is inversely related to age. Growth retardation is a common sign in children. Inadequate intake or utilization of vitamin A can cause impaired dark adaptation and night blindness; xerosis of the conjunctiva and cornea; xerophthalmia and keratomalacia; keratinization of lung, GI tract, and urinary tract epithelia; increased susceptibility to infections; and sometimes death. Follicular hyperkeratosis of the skin is common.
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I eat fish about 3 times a week, and I have alot of pumpkin and kumara (high in vitamin A). I am also taking a spirulina supplement which I believe contains beta carotene. I wonder if I have trouble with absorption? I have noticed,about 2 hours after meals I get itchy skin! That Follicular hyperkeratosis sounds exactly like KP.
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I don't mean to worry you but I just did a google search for you & it states itchy skin as a sign of having too much Vitamin A -geez we can't win here!! Just when things start to make sense. It doesn't cross off the notion that the absorption could be a problem though, so maybe that's the key not the levels we have.
I don't know how reliable the information is though, to check it out for yourself the link is:
http://www.arthritis.org/resources/a...e_vitamins.asp
I think it takes a while to solve any deficiencies so if the itchy skin turns out to be unrelated I'd keep up with the healthy diet :-)
I hope you can get an answer on the reason for the itchy skin soon.
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Good call! Let me know how your vitamin A test comes out! I might get tested too. I have the exact same experience with driving and never really thought of it as a vitamin A deficiency....but yeah, driving at night is super hard for me.....I get really disoriented with all the oncoming lights and have a hard time following the road.......My eye sight is great all the rest of the time.

In regards to retinoic acid binding to receptors which bind to your DNA to regulate gene expression....don't "freak out" Different peptides and stuff are constantly binding to your DNA to regulate the production of proteins within your body . Its normal or you wouldn't be alive! In regards to the reason vitamin A deficency is genetic I would not be inclined to say that it is becasue it's product binds to our DNA. My thoughts are that is is most likely an intestinal uptake problem since retinoic acid is associated with eyes and to my knowledge no other major molecular mechanism in the body. Regardless, even though retinoic acid binds secondarily to our DNA I find it highly unlikely that that would be the "genetic" cause. The "genetic" cause would be due to the absense, presence, or alteration of a gene in our DNA (prehaps responsible for vit A uptake from the intestines?) and should not be affected by retinoic acid binding to it, unless of course it causes retinoic acid to not bind or bind more frequently to the DNA, which would then have nothing to due with retinoic acid, but everything to due with our DNA. Sorry if I got all scientific on ya and I hope I made sense. Those are just my thoughts......coming from a girl finishing her masters degree in biomedical science. I am certainly not a specialist in that area, but did learn briefly about it last year in molecular biology.....my research focuses on blood pressure and salt regulation in the body.
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Thanks for setting my mind at ease :-)

Today I had a blood test for betacarotene -apparently you can't test for Vitamin A levels- but betacarotene is the level absorped by the body (or so I was told) I also had an overall vitamin analysis, I will find out in a week, so fingers crossed the results can shed some light. It was completely free of charge to do so, so all those in NZ I would suggest to give it a go. I'll post my results as soon as I get them :-)
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Has anyone here had their Vitamin A levels checked, is it possible to do? I found that a common symptoms of Vitamin A deficiency is: urinary tract infections plus Follicular hyperkeratosis of the skin. I used to have problems with urinary infections & KP is hyperkeratotic. I'd really love to know if others are Vitamin A deficient? I am going to call my doctor on Monday to see if I can be checked, apparently Vitamin A (retinol) is fat soluble sometimes you can you have enough Vitamin A but vitamin A storage and transport are defective. So it might be that my balance of protein-energy is not right. Another really freaky fact is that it binds with your DNA to regulate gene expression which seems to correspond with the theory that KP is genetic - sorry I'm not a specialist but this seems to make sense to me. Also I hate driving at night when I have to dim my lights for oncoming vehicles I feel it is so hard to see ( I wear glasses for driving but I am not made to wear them). Please let me know whether you have been tested. Thanks . I'll re-post after consulting my doctor, bear with me I work in an open-planned office & it is sometimes hard to juggle this.

An excerpt from www.merck.com

Vitamin A (retinol) is fat soluble and is found mainly in fish liver oils, liver, egg yolks, butter, and cream. Green leafy and yellow vegetables contain http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/430/2...ages/sbeta.gif-carotene and other provitamin carotenoids, which are converted to retinal in the mucosal cells of the small intestine. Retinal is reduced to retinol, then esterified. Most of the body's vitamin A is stored in the liver as retinyl palmitate. It is released into the circulation as retinol bound to retinol binding protein and prealbumin (transthyretin). The 11-cis isomer of retinal (vitamin A aldehyde) combines with opsin to form rhodopsin, the prosthetic group of photoreceptor pigments in the retina. In somatic cells, retinol is converted to retinoic acid, which combines with receptors that bind to DNA and regulate gene expression to maintain epithelial tissues and guide differentiation of a variety of other tissues.

Secondary vitamin A deficiency may be due to inadequate conversion of carotene to vitamin A or to interference with absorption, storage, or transport of vitamin A. Interference with absorption or storage is likely in celiac disease, sprue, cystic fibrosis, pancreatic disease, duodenal bypass, congenital partial obstruction of the jejunum, obstruction of the bile ducts, giardiasis, and cirrhosis. Vitamin A deficiency is common in protein-energy malnutrition (marasmus or kwashiorkor), principally because the diet is deficient but also because vitamin A storage and transport are defective.
Symptoms and Signs

The severity of the effects of vitamin A deficiency is inversely related to age. Growth retardation is a common sign in children. Inadequate intake or utilization of vitamin A can cause impaired dark adaptation and night blindness; xerosis of the conjunctiva and cornea; xerophthalmia and keratomalacia; keratinization of lung, GI tract, and urinary tract epithelia; increased susceptibility to infections; and sometimes death. Follicular hyperkeratosis of the skin is common.
Thanks for your post. I think that hit the target on me. Im a vegetarian and i most likely dont get enough protein intake from fat. I also have a hard time seeing at night and i have to wear contacts. I also have some gi problems, and used to have alot of UTI's(sorry..too much info).

I was taking fish oils and vitamin a for a year and saw no improvements. My mom works wtih a naturopath(sp?) and i mentioned to her how vitamin a and fish oils arnt improving my arms and she recomended taking these digestive enzymes whenever i take my fish oils and vitamin a and she said that i might not be digesting the a and fish oils. I've been taking the enzymes with the vitamin a and fish oils everyday for about 2 weeks along with lightly using a brush on my arms in the shower followed with cetaphil lotion and my arms are 90% better. The enzymes i use are called A.I. enzymes but im sure theres different kinds.
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Thanks for that, It's really neat to read how the enzymes fast tracked your results. As soon as I get my vitamin report back I'm going to seriously look at the best supplement plan for me & more than likely I'll add these in to fast track it along. Thanks!! :-)
- I hope it all doesn't become too expensive, but when I weigh it up against the cost of trying new creams & that it has other benefits it's not so bad. So glad to hear your arms are on the mend.
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Sorry guys all of my vitamin tests done via blood samples at medilab after getting the approval from my doctor have shown that my vitamin levels are healthy. So I guess I got it wrong. I'm back on the Calmurid cream 10% Urea & Lactic Acid, improving but still not perfect.
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