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Old 07-13-2006, 07:07 PM
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It was for the Coconut oil website.
www.nutiva.com
I am wondering if it ships to Canada
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:18 PM
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Sorry, elc. I didn't follow you, there.

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Originally Posted by krystalite
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Thanks,
I will definately keep everyone posted. I hope it works better than my current routine atleast.

Allison Sullivan- Thanks for the tip on the mineral oil. I just don't know what to use for my baby now or myself. If you have any ideas please let me know. I also noticed all of my current lotions contain parabens!
I know you're all getting tired of hearing it, but Arbonne again! They have a ABC line formulated for babies (6 months and up), children, and adults with extra sensitive skin. The line includes a hair & body wash, body oil, lotion, sunscreen (SPF 30), and a diaper rash cream (A&D, desitin, aquaphor, etc. all have mineral oil or petro-products I know, I know, I threw out a boatload of stuff, too.) All are formulated without the bad stuff mentioned above.

The only reasons I got involved with Arbonne in the first place is that 1) it's working for me & I want to shout it from the rooftops, 2) I found out all the horrifying things "they" put in grocery/drugstore variety products, and 3) I want to do something beneficial to help other people become educated and make better choices for their families. I'm trying to get the word out, and I haven't even told you guys about what make-up companies put in their stuff, yet (this isn't a make-up forum, & I've been trying to stick to KP-related issues)! Some of it's too gross to type publicly, but you know how make-up starts to stink after a month or 2? There's a reason, and it ain't pretty...

Email me if you want to know. It's especially pertinent if you have KP on your face and wear makeup. Or if you're an animal lover.

PS I think arbonne has parabens listed on some of their products, but they also have a notice on the website about it. I think I've posted it somewhere on this forum before, but I'll have to look around and find it. I'll re-post it here when I do.

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Old 07-13-2006, 07:22 PM
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Here it is again:

you knew i'd look it up...
From their website:
question: Why does Arbonne use parabens Instead of “natural” preservatives? What are they?

Parabens are esters of p-Hydroxybenzoic Acid. They are used as safe and effective preservatives in cosmetic, food and drug formulations and protect against yeast, molds and bacteria.

why they’re included

When it comes to complex formulations, Arbonne prides itself on safety as part of its pure, safe, beneficial philosophies. Preservatives are essential in maintaining the integrity of these formulations and we formulate with “broad spectrum” preservative systems to protect against oxidation as well as contamination.

When formulating with both oil and water based ingredients, you must use two types of preservative systems to ensure long term safety. Antioxidants, commonly known as “natural preservatives” protect oils from oxidizing or going rancid.

Where many natural ingredients have some antimicrobial and antibacterial properties, they do not meet the stringent guidelines stipulated by the FDA for consumer safety.

Because Arbonne’s unique formulations are oil-in-water emulsions, we must use the parabens to offer broadspectrum protection from the yeast, molds and bacteria that are common in our environment and naturally occurring in water. It is absolutely necessary to support natural antioxidants, which protect the oils, with broad-spectrum preservatives that protect the water phase. Only these complex and safe systems ensure long-term safety for the consumer.

the facts: Parabens are practically non-irritating and non-sensitizing in the human population with normal skin and are safe for use in cosmetic formulations as outlined by the governing institutions, FDA, CTFA & CIR. However, paraben sensitization has been reported when paraben-containing medicaments have been applied to broken skin, specifically, or when used in concentrations exceeding 1%. Arbonne uses less than 0.5%.

for more information
Please refer to the following:

Cosmetic Ingredient Review Board @ www.cir-safety.org
Cosmetic, Toiletry and Fragrance Association @ www.ctfa.org
U.S. Food and Drug Administration @ www.fda.gov
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:10 PM
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Now I am confused! So the FDA requires certain standards and the only way to achieve these standards is to use parabens? I guess I am not understanding why it is so bad for other companies to use but ok for Arbonne to use. What you just posted makes it sound like the use of parabens is acceptable by Arbonne standards. Sorry Allison, could you clarify please? The reason I ask is because I went to the health food store and looked for an alternative baby lotion and they all contain parabens.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:49 PM
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OK, what I'm concerned about is the mineral oil and Petrolatum/petroleum in 98% of US cosmetics and toiletries. Arbonne doesn't use them. They're carcinogens! They also don't use animal by-products (another health risk). EVERYBODY uses parabens because the FDA says so. Parabens aren't safe in certain quantities (greater than 1%), but according to the links above, is ok in quantities less than 1% (Arbonne's is less than .5%) I'll get a list of Arbonne's ABC body oil ingredients and post them for you in a minute...
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:05 PM
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Here they are:

ingredient source function
Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil seeds Emollient, Moisturizer,
Conditioner
Prunus Armeniaca (Apricot) Kernel Oil fruit Emollient, Conditioner, Moisturizer
Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil seeds Emollient, Moisturizer
Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil seeds Emollient, Moisturizer, Conditioner
Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil plant Emollient, Moisturizer
Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Oil fruit Emollient, Anti-Inflammatory
Tocopherol vitamin E, plant Antioxidant
Retinyl Palmitate vitamin A, plant Antioxidant, Essential Vitamin
Ascorbyl Palmitate vitamin C, plant Antioxidant, Essential Vitamin
Ergocalciferol vitamin D2, plant Essential Vitamin
Bisabolol plant Anti-Inflammatory
Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract plant Anti-Inflammatory, Anti-Irritant
Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract plant Moisturizer, Skin Protectant
Lonicera Caprifolium (Honeysuckle) plant Anti-Microbial Flower Extract
Tilia Cordata Flower Extract plant Soother, Antiseptic
Passiflora Incarnata Fruit Extract plant Emollient, Moisturizer
Propylparaben science Preservative

Essences of:
Lemon plant Aromatic Agent
Orange plant Aromatic Agent
Orange Blossom plant Aromatic Agent
Cedarwood plant Aromatic Agent

Does this clear the confusion up? I wasn't concerned with parabens (someone else asked about them). I'm concerned that we're slathering our bodies with carcinogens and refinery products.







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Old 07-16-2006, 09:49 PM
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I'm trying the Virgin Oil

Hi there,

I have been reading these threads for a little over a week and decided to try the Nutive Coconut Oil tonight. I am sitting here right now, smelling like a pina coloda, not an unpleasant experience, but I have a few questions.

Is my skin supposed to be greasy? Did I put too much on?

I drove home in the burning sun, so I know the oil heated up a little-it was runny and hard to get out of the jar, even though I didn't take the jar in the shower. Will it re-solidify after a bit?

I don't have KP horribly bad, but I have it-to the point where I have been questioned about my arms, and it, in the last few months, has spread to my back, just behind my arms. I'm over 40; I thought this stuff was supposed to get better with age!

Thank you for being out there, and thank you in advance for any info you can give me.
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Old 07-17-2006, 06:28 AM
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Hmm, my process is as follows:

Shower
Exfoliate - I'm currently using Scholl Hard Skin Exfoliator and and an exfoliating sponge from Boots
Slather on the Coconoil (I'm in the UK - couldn't find Nutiva) onto my arms (although I love it so much I'm actually doing my chest and legs as well, because it's so silky smooth - no KP in either area though, just being indulgent).
I then wash my hair and wash the rest of me.
Tiny bit of Sanex shower creme to create a lather, then gently soap down areas I've oiled, to remove excess.
Dry myself off.
The silkiness lasts all day.

I have minimal bumps now, and I do notice new ones coming up, but they are about half as bad as they were. My husband has definitely noticed, and has noticed that I've stopped picking as well (almost - I did one yesterday, on my shoulder, where I knew it would stay covered up, but it hasn't scabbed up like they used to. It's now just a tiny red mark).
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:36 PM
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hey FLo... I'm from the UK too.. I was wondering where you bought your Coconoil from. Thanks...
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:59 PM
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Have you or anyone else ever used salex?
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:29 AM
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Talking Thank You!

I am new to the forum. I was so happy to find this site, I literally cried. I have been fighting with what I now know is kp, for 2 1/2 years. Since 6 months after giving birth to my daughter. I had no idea what I had been contending with until reading a little blurb in Self magazine a few weeks ago. I immediately went online to do some further research and came across this site. After reading so many of your stories and finding out more about kp, I started to realize that I have been dealing with, on a much lesser scale, for as long as I can remember. On my thighs, butt and occasionally would appear on the back of my arms. After childbirth, it grew like wildfire on the back of both arms. I have tried different lotions and have been referred to dermatologists. But, nothing has worked. The things that I haven't tried are due to the chemical nature of the "cure". So, I am extactic about the coconut oil solution. After reading morningbells info, I ran right out and picked some up at my local health food store. I have been using it for 2 days so far. Immediately, my skin felt calmer. The red almost instantly disappeared. I still have bumps, but I am already happier with this than anything else. Plus, there is nothing unnatural/chemical about it. Even better. I am so excited about it, that I went to my library and checked out The Coconut Oil Miracle by Bruce Fife, N.P.. It has a chapter on skin care and it is amazing the things that he says this oil can do for skin and hair alone, let alone numbers of other things. Just in case anyone else is interested in researching Coconut Oil....this is the book to check out. Thank you all for all the information that you are so brave to share. It is so helpful.


. ....Oh.....one question....for anyone that may know....

I exfoliated with a gently pumice, while lathered, and it angered one of my arms badly today. It felt like it was on fire. After work, I came home and put more coconut oil on and it seems to have already helped. But, I just wanted more suggestions on the exfoliating process. Am I being too harsh. What should I use can would be more gentle....yet still effective?

Thanks so much.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:52 AM
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Boodle1977,

a good natural exfoliatant that you can make at home is to mix sugar and olive oil together in a container, i use a Victoria's Secert scrub from the secert spa collection that takes away almost every bump on my arm without being to harsh. I have very sensitive skin and most things irritate it but this does not, when I run out of this I plan on making my own out of sugar and olive oil because a lot of people on this fourm have raved about it.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:57 AM
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I have decided after a few weeks of coconut oil that exfoliating with scrubs and pumices does not work for my skin. My skin get inflamed very easily. The coconut oil is so soothing and it helps so much on its own.

What I have started instead of exfoliating is Queen Helene's Mint Julip Mask. I put it on my arms for about 15 minutes before I shower, rinse it off and apply the coconut oil afterward (while I am in the shower). This has been making real improvements with my arms. This mask is for opening pores and blackheads and acne. It seems to be working and it is like 3 bucks.
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Guys- gently gently rubbing with meat tenderizer (and every few days baking soda), a shower with cetaphil only and NO scrubbing, and then apple cider vinegar..and maybe a few hours later, coconut oil overnight has BLOWN MY MIND!!!! Just wanted to add that...the amount of new bumps I'm getting is next to nothing. I still don't have "perfect" skin, but a tan works wonders too! I'm done with scrubbing and done with real soap and even sulphur soap. It's amazing!!!!
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