no im not doing any exfoliating but i always moisturise i cant stand my skin when it hasnt been moisturised after the shower. in the shower im just using a natural body wash with a sponge, no exolifants or abrasive sponges. and the moisturiser im using atm is just anything i can find in my cupboard i need to buy a new one since im running out. but yeh i didnt want to use anything really because i want to see if i can get my kp under control just on vitamins/minerals and a healthy diet alone without moisturisers n lotions. i hope it works!

i'm taking 3000 mg's of fish oil
and 25,000 iu of beta carotene


i just started taking them everyday

is that good enough or should i be taking some other pills?

But the article doesn't mention anything about Phrynodermal being a genetic condition. If it's a vit. def. than why does it run in families? Living in this day an age when everyother food is fortified w/ vit's how can we be vit/ defecient? The children in this article were a from low-soci economic group in India so I could see how they could be vit. defecient but how could I when I eat well balanced meals every day. And why does my dad have it and not my mom when they are bascially eating the same exact diet?

i was just wondering how our intestine handles the intake of like 18 pills per day.i dont't think these pills can be fully digested so i'm a bit afraid of the side effects that might appear after years of taking such quantities.just a thought...

Ok for one we wont be taking these vitamins/minerals for years we are only taking them now to recorrect our deficencies after that we wil just maintain our adequate intake through food and perhaps a multivitamin. AYNAS: why are you asking this question, is it because you have poor digestion? Our intestines have been handling **** for years have you thought about how hard it is to digest meat or dairy? 18 tablets will be MUCH easier for your body to absorb it than much of the food you are eating. A lot of the vitamins we are taking are water soluble so if we have an excess in our body we excrete it through our urine therefore toxicity levels are VERY unlikely.

Smiley26: There are many factors to consider with KP other than yeah its genetic, everything is blamed on genetics! Yes food is fortified with vitamins/minerals but is there something else in that food that is inhibiting that from being absorbed? The only foods that are fortified with vitamins and minerals as you say aren't even good for you, i mean these days white bread is fortified with Omega 3 i mean wtf? And it may be these foods that are causing your disease. if you were eating enough fruits and vegetables since you were a child (which a lot of us didnt, i mean kids eat a lot of ****) and avoided dairy i highly doubt you would have kp, i doubt anyone on this board is completely healthy and have been their entire life. Yes you may be healthy now but look at your childhood what did you eat? I for one ate a lot of junk food, i ate anything i want and i barely ate any veges i did eat fruit though. And not only this but i ate so much dairy it was unbelievable.

Like i have said everyone is completely different and one person could eat the same diet and completely absorb and assimilate all of the vitamins/minerals in that food where as another could eat the same thing and barely absorb any of it whether it is due to: low stomach acid/dysbiosis/not enough good flora in your intestines to absorb the nutrients/chrons/celiacs/liver dysfunction. there are so many factors that you have to consider its not just genetic! Is your mother healthier than your father what were their childhoods like what did they eat? You cant just look at yeah they eat the same food they must be getting the same vitamins/minerals it is more than that, and a lot of people do not understand this!

Hey everyone,

taking vitamins is a really good idea, but you need to take them correctly.
Vitamins A, D, E & K are fat soluble, so basically you need to eat fatty foods with them for them to be properly absorbed! The rest of the vitamins are water soluble, so a glass of water should do just fine.

Good luck

It seems as if the name has been changed but the defiency/supplement advice is the same from your original post from a long time ago?????

no its not if you read it correctly in my old post i did say there was a link between vitamin A and kp and that fatty acids r important for its assimilation but i didnt say nething about vitamin B, E, zinc etc

Be careful on the vitamin dosage, there can be "too much of a good thing":

http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic638.htm

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/002596.htm

Our bodies were designed to optimally absorb vitamins & minerals from our diet, not pills. The best way to boost your vitamin & minerals is to eat plenty of fresh or lightly steamed vegetables and fruits! I find when I eat like ****, my KP does seem to look worse. But when I refocus on nature's goodies, the KP gets a *little* better after a few weeks.

Follicular hyperkeratosis is a symptom (like the cough), and the cause could either be phrynoderma, or keratosis pilaris, or some other disease. And phrynoderma is different from keratosis pilaris. They are two distinct disorders whose symptoms happen to look similar, but they have different causes (for example, if someone has a cough and a fever, the cause could be a common cold, or the flu, or SARS, ...).

http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic1246.htm

ive been eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, my diet is lactose and wheat free and my diet is high in whole grains and i do juicing on a regular basis and i still have kp. which is why i wrote this post in the first place, no matter how perfect your diet it is it doesnt necessary guarantee you are getting enough minerals and vitamins from your diet. ofcourse pills are not meant to replace a healthy diet.

well thanks for the update bout phrynoderma i wasn't too sure if that was the same condition but im pretty sure follicular hyperkeratosis is a different name of kp.

Is there a questionaire we could do here i wonder? Maybe we could identify some patterns between everyone here, see if we all have similar diets or medical historys.... anything??

Alot of people i have read about develped KP in their teens at some stage?? I know for sure that my diet all the way through my teens was very bad, so i assume that is what helped it happen. I dont have the KPFR ( the one on my face) that badly, just around my nose, i use a tar based moisturiser which clears it completely. but i also have KP on my upper arms, both side of my torso and my buttocks. I am thinking about trying vitamins but i really wudnt hold my breath.

good idea ronan i would have to agree with you my kp started at the age of 15, and up until then my diet was horrible i ate so many sugary foods snacked on junk food all the time it was disgusting. itd be interesting to see if this was the case for a lot of people

Amen! Finally, someone who actually knows what they're talking about (my dermatologist told me I had eczema...*sigh*). Thanks!

My two pence worth - I dont think your diet in the past has affected anything. Its genetic, if you're going to get kp you're going to get it. Perhaps it is vitamin deficiancy related, or more likely in my opinion, a problem with the utilisation of vitmains and minerals. But cramming your body with what you lacked in your youth isnt likely to help, especially if your diet is healthy now and has been for years.