Product recommendation, best thing I've used so far
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07-06-2005, 11:33 AM
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Product recommendation, best thing I've used so far
Hi Everyone,
Recently at one of those "cosmetic" parties I felt pressured to buy something, and chose a sea salt scrub (because it was inexpensive, LOL), thinking that it might help with the KP on the back of my arms. I've tried alot of things recommended by my dermatologist, etc. and this is by far the best product I've used for KP. I wasn't sure it would help the irritation since technically it is a harsh scrub (i.e. sea salt), but ironically it has made a major difference in both the appearance and feel of my skin. The back of my arms no longer appear red and irritated, and are also extremely soft to the touch. My husband even noticed the other day when he put his hands on my arms. I think it's because the scrub also has a slightly waxy? consistency which helps with the irritation. I do not even need a moisturizer after using it in the shower. Anyway, the brand is Arbonne and it is called Awaken Sea Salt Scrub. The link is at: https://www.arbonne.com/shop_online/...hop_online.asp (it is under the aromatherapy section, product number 7089) Hope that helps! Lori     
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I would really like to try the Arbonne sea salt scrub but am having a hard time purchasing it on their website. Can you buy it anywhere else?|
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07-07-2005, 06:17 PM
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I did a Yahoo search on the words "arbonne salt scrub" and came up with a few vendors, so you should be able to purchase it somewhere on the net. I believe various spas carry it too, so you could check locally as well. hope that helps!
Lori
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07-10-2005, 08:36 PM
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I just found a sea salt scrub from Calgon, you can find it at Walmart or Shopers Drug Mart, probably lots of other places too, it cost me $7 Canadian.
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07-11-2005, 12:05 AM
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I found a lot on eBay!! I would also like to know how you use it, with a loofah?
Thanks, Melissa
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07-14-2005, 07:25 PM
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In answer to your questions,
1) First, if you still have trouble finding it, it occurred to me that you could contact a representative through the website (it would be similar to something like a Mary Kay rep) and purchasing it through them. 2) As to how I apply it, basically I only use the scrub for my the back of my arms. It doesn't seem practical to me to use it everywhere, though I guess I could use it on the backs of my legs since KP is present there as well, but I don't worry about that part. It comes with a scoop (you have to mix it up a bit in the beginning) and I use about a half to full scoop each morning, split the amount in half and then rub it with my hands onto the backs of my arms. I scrub pretty vigorously for about 30 seconds and then just rinse off. Hope that helps! Lori
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07-19-2005, 04:45 AM
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Hi Lori,
I was wonderning if you have ever tried a deep sea salt bath? I think that they have them at spas, I'm not exactly sure. I have heard that deep sea salt helps the KP and I'm just curious if you have ever done that at a spa or at home and if it's helped?? It wouldnt hurt me to try, and I'm always looking for diffrent treatments.
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07-20-2005, 07:45 PM
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Salt bath
I have found that a 20-minute soak once a week in dead sea salts and/or epsom (magnesium suphate) helps, especially with the redness and irritation. I use about 1 kg salt per full bath. Caution: magesium aborbs through your skin so don't get carried away with this treatment.
Last edited by pistazie; 07-20-2005 at 07:48 PM. Reason: spelling
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07-31-2005, 12:08 PM
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My website is in my profile, just click on my name and go to my prolfile. I am an Executive District Manager with Arbonne.
Our sea salt scrub is differant because we use botanical oils and have not petro chemicals or duraritives in our products. Minerial oils clog pores and smuther the skin by laying on top and not allowing the skin to breathe. This prevents it from properly functioning. There is more info on this on my site under awareness. The Awaken Sea salt scrub is one of the products my daughter has uses on her KP. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Ann Phelps 
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07-31-2005, 12:39 PM
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I disagree that mineral oil "suffocates" skin;
The notion that mineral oil and petrolatum (Vaseline) are bad for skin has been around for some time, with Aveda being the most visible company to mount a crusade deriding these ingredients. According to many companies that produce "natural" cosmetics, mineral oil and petrolatum are terrible ingredients because they come from crude oil (petroleum) and are used in industry as metal-cutting fluid (among other uses) and, therefore, can harm the skin by forming an oil film and suffocating it. This foolish, recurring misinformation about mineral oil and petrolatum is maddening. After all, crude oil is as natural as any other earth-derived substance. Moreover, lots of ingredients are derived from awful-sounding sources but are nevertheless benign and totally safe. Salt is a perfect example. Common table salt is sodium chloride, composed of sodium and chloride, but salt doesn't have the caustic properties of chloride (a form of chlorine) or the unstable explosiveness of sodium. In fact, it is a completely different compound with the harmful properties of neither of its components. Cosmetics-grade mineral oil and petrolatum are considered the safest, most nonirritating moisturizing ingredients ever found (Sources: Cosmetics & Toiletries, January 2001, page 79; Cosmetic Dermatology, September 2000, pages 44–46). Yes, they can keep air off the skin to some extent, but that's what a good antioxidant is supposed to do; they don't suffocate skin! Moreover, petrolatum and mineral oil are known for being efficacious in wound healing, and are also considered to be among the most effective moisturizing ingredients available (Source: Cosmetics & Toiletries, February 1998, pages 33–40). This information comes from cosmeticscop.com, a very well researched site that has links to peer-reviewed medical journals for all of its claims. I have to say I'm a little uncomfortable with someone posting on the boards making claims for a product when said person has a financial stake in the purchase of those products... it may or may not be a conflict of interest, but lets make sure we're all trying to help eachother, okay?
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07-31-2005, 12:41 PM
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Some more information that might be helpful, since we should know what we're putting on our skin: If there is one cosmetics industry buzz word that gets almost immediate consumer attention, it’s “natural.” Whatever preconceived or media-induced fiction someone might believe about natural ingredients being better for the skin has no factual basis or scientific legitimacy. Not only is the definition of "natural" hazy, but the term isn't even regulated, so each cosmetics company can use it to mean whatever they want it to mean. "If a company wants to call their products natural, it can, and it doesn't matter what they contain. [The] FDA has tried to establish official definitions for the use of certain terms such as “natural” but its regulations were overturned in court. So companies can use them on cosmetic labels to mean anything or nothing at all." (Source: FDA Consumer Magazine, August 2000). In the world of skin care and makeup, the claims about all-natural products are either exaggerated because the products are laden with lots of unnatural ingredients, or the natural ingredients they do contain are problematic for the skin. Just because an ingredient grows out of the ground or is found in nature doesn’t make it automatically good for skin, and the reverse is also true, just because it is synthetic doesn’t make it bad. Yet there are many beneficial natural ingredients for skin, which makes the whole issue more confusing because consumers are often at a loss (or simply don’t have the time) to determine which natural ingredients are helpful and which are harmful (and more products than I care to count contain a frustrating combination of both). Fruits, vegetables, or any pure food ingredients are not necessarily the best for skin. When it comes to skin care, more often than not, it is some small element of the plant that has benefit for skin. Extracting this component from the plant almost always requires a process that is synthetically derived. Further, these extracts are far more stable than the whole food. Think about it this way: a plant in its pure form isn’t stable in the least, especially in skin-care products. Just think of how long a head of lettuce lasts in your refrigerator. It would be far worse sitting on the counter in your bathroom! Regrettably, natural or plant-based preservatives have extremely poor antimicrobial or antifungal properties. Complications for skin due to a product being contaminated are a serious consideration when it comes to how a product is preserved. Many companies claiming to be all-natural are anything but. They achieve the appearance of being all natural by listing a natural ingredient description in parentheses next to the more technical-sounding ingredient on their label. Although this appears to be helpful information, it still leads consumers in the wrong direction. For example, ammonium lauryl sulfate, a standard detergent cleansing agent, is listed on an Aveda ingredient label as being derived from coconut oil. While that makes the ingredient sound natural, what the label doesn’t explain is what the coconut oil has to go through to become ammonium lauryl sulfate. Ammonium lauryl sulfate is the salt of a sulfuric acid compound, neutralized with an ingredient like triethanolamine. None of that makes this ingredient bad for skin, and I wouldn't tell anyone to avoid ammonium lauryl sulfate, but that is the more accurate description of that ingredient and it just isn’t “natural”. Along with this deception, products from companies that want you to believe they are all natural often, if not always, contain a vast array of synthetic ingredients. It is important to point out that many natural ingredients can cause allergies, irritation, and skin sensitivities. Just think of how many people have a hay fever response to a wide variety of plants, and observe how many of these plants show up in cosmetics. Citrus often shows up in skin-care products, but most of us have gotten lemon or lime juice on a slight cut while cooking and know it burns like crazy because it's irritating to skin. Camphor (which is distilled from certain trees), peppermint, menthol, and eucalyptus can all cause an irritant or sensitizing response. All of the following natural ingredients can cause skin irritation, allergic reactions, skin sensitivity, and/or sun sensitivity:
The notion that natural ingredients are better than synthetic ingredients is even more distressing, because it just isn't true. While vegetable or plant oils may sound better for the skin, varying forms of silicones (i.e., siloxanes, dimethicones, cyclomethicones) are just as beneficial and offer impressive benefits for the skin. But it's hard to glamorize and advertise a "synthetic," unnatural-sounding ingredient. Silicones show up in over 80% of all skin-care, makeup, and hair-care products you buy. Yet you rarely hear about them because the cosmetics companies think consumers won't find them as sexy or alluring as plants, or oxygen therapy, or cellular repair, or a thousand other marketing angles that have nothing to do with what really works for your skin. I'm not saying there aren't a large range of natural ingredients that are exceptional for the skin, because there are—lots and lots of them—but the idea that they are the "best” (or only) option for skin is just not reality. If you want to use products that contain helpful, non-irritating natural ingredients, what should you look for? The following natural ingredients (though keep in mind the natural form and, at times, the function of these ingredients may be altered after they’re treated and prepared for use in a cosmetic product) each have beneficial properties for skin, mostly by making dry skin look and feel better or functioning as antioxidants:
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