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Old 11-30-2004, 06:36 PM
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Rosacea article in magazine...

I read this in first mag yesterday...don't know much about rosacea, but hopefully it can help someone with Keratosis Pilaris redness. It may be obvious info (wasn't for me!) but also got me thinking if maybe Keratosis Pilaris is also caused by a parasite (sounds harsh doesn't it?)

Here it goes -
Real cause of rosacea discovered...
For year, doctors have been trying to identify the culprit behind rosacea, a skin condition that causes the nose, cheeks, and forehead to redden with tiny bumps, pimples or visible blood vessels. But now, Chinese scientists have finally discovered the cause of the embarrassing affliction: the human demodex parasite. Nintety-eight percent of adults have this parasite on their skin, and it causes symptoms in an estimated 14 million Americans. The good news: Researchers have found that applying sea buckthorn oil to the skin begins to kill the parasite in seven days. To make the benefits easily accessible, the research team formulated a soap containing the oil (FaceDoctor Rejuvenating Soap, $19.99; call 866-595-6497). One bar lasts three to four months when used daily.


Phew, done typing...it wasn't one of those advertising sections in magazines, it was under beauty science. Now, who knows it's may be strategic marketing but still seemed like interesting info.

Thoughts? Has anyone tried the oil?
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:47 PM
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Oh God now i'm going to start having nightmares of nasty parasites all over me...actually funny that you posted this I was just telling my mom about how many of us have parasites and don't even know it. Yesterday I was doing some research hoping to find some info or advice on skin disease, and came up with a link about Eczema and Psoriasis being part of a parasite reaction. Where the parasite causes the immune system to react thus affecting the skin. I'll look for the site and post the link if I find it.
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:09 PM
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Ok definitly freaking out now...lol Thanks Nala...i'm looking for info under parasites and skin conditions...and so far it seems there maybe a strong connection in some cases...that and that they may mimic other skin diseases...INCLUDING Keratosis Pilaris. Anyone else looking into this? Maybe we can come up with ideas.

Hmm...

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Symptoms of Sarcoptes infection arise after 4-6 weeks and comprise a papular pruritic eruption at a site often unrelated to the site of infestation; symptoms of secondary infestations arise almost immediately. Zoonotic scabies have shorter incubation periods but are also self-limiting. Persistent nodular scabies comprises itchy erythematous or scabbed nodules, often on the penis. When the immune system is impaired, Norwegian (crusted) scabies may develop: this presents with erythema and hyperkeratosis but little itching.
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~ceb/Diagnosis/Vol12.htm

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How does MSM help with parasites?

MSM has proven to be a very effective treatment for parasites. Research shows that MSM works by laying a coating over the intestinal areas where some types of parasites normally attach themselves. This coating makes it impossible for parasites to attach themselves to your body. Since they are not attached to your body, the parasites are simply flushed out of your system through the process of elimination. MSM can be used against worms, giardia, trichomonas, and other types of parasites. Making sure that you have an adequate daily intake of MSM can help to ensure that the parasites do not have a chance to make themselves at home inside your body. MSM has the ability to return the parasite susceptible tissue to normalcy with no impairment or injury to host. MSM has an alleviating or curing effect on a variety of parasitic systemic microbial infections.
Didn't MSM seem to work for some people in treating Keratosis Pilaris? I'm also finding that COq10 is often effective in parasite control because it aids cells to fight off parasites...didn't other's have success with this to?

Ok now i'm paranoid...whether Keratosis Pilaris can be a possible reaction to parasites or not...most of us do have parasites and don't even no it. Thanks Nala...in the mean time if I find anything i'll keep adding info.

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I'm not having much luck finding the scientific literature that they claim here. But as long as the soap isn't expensive, why not try it?
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lol You're welcome Roxio
I'm randomly looking up info on Keratosis Pilaris, but never done a parasite search.

Here's the link for the company...
http://demodexsolutions.com/

And another link...
http://www.face-doctor.net/facedoctorsoap.htm

I skimmed the FAQ sections, but honestly I don't know if I really care to read much more. It seems to cure even acne? Wow, seems like a cure all...okay, maybe I'm being too skeptical. If it works so well, then sea buckthorn oil should work just as well right? Since that would be the active ingredient, maybe it's not as easy to apply?

CrashingBoy, haven't looked for any studies willl post if I do. Many doctors don't really look into other "cures" as they are focused on traditionally scientific medicine so may be this is legit in someway. Sometimes alternative med works, sometimes it doesn't...nothing is for sure either way. Maybe after looking into it a little more, I'll try it on one thigh or something lol.
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Old 11-30-2004, 08:56 PM
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I'm not paranoid about this, but I'm itchy! You know when you see a pic of something gross - a bunch of insects and stuff, it's makes you all itchy...or is it just me?
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Heh. Check this thread out. Seems if it worked for KP we would have heard by now...

http://www.esfbchannel.com/cgi-bin/y...num=1088005146
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http://216.122.128.184/dc/dcboard.ph...&forum=2&page=

I found a board on parasite skin conditions, i'm doing random searches on hyperkeratosis, red spots, bumps, keratosis pilaris, etc. and am finding some interesting info. umm but keep in mind that some of these people are suffering very freaky symptoms having to do with parasite infestation, so if you have a weak stomach BE CAREFUL. Lol

PS. I'M ALL ITCHY AND FEELING BUGS EVERYWHERE LOL. Ugh and it seems parasites are just like KP - hell to get rid of...so either way we're screwed HAHA...somehow...KP being genetic...is sounding a lot better now.

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Just found: sea buckthorn oil is a naturally occuring pro-vitamin A.

Sea Buckthorn is unique for its ability to combine oil soluble and water soluble vitamins A and C.

Again, I think it's this whole Vitamin A issue with KPers! I think I really have convinced myself KP and Vitamin A probs are without a doubt related lol.

But I'm kinda dodgy about the whole it's a parasite, will need to look up more info.

CrashingBoy I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes though I think, KP is so common and I'm sure celebs have it (Nicole Kidman does/did) I mean she has to be doing something for the KP? May be its laser or some other treatment, but WHAT is it? I just may be too focused on finding a reasoning.
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I guess we shouldn't jump to the conclusion about parasites, umm the only thing that does seem to match is that a lot of the things we recommend to each other for KP does seem to be used to fight off parasites, especially sulfur, omega 3's, garlic, essential oils, apple cider vingar, umm I even read something about natual fatty acids used in organic pesticides, and parasites do seem to cause anemia, low immune symptoms, vitamin dificiencies, etc...but then again who knows right? Anything is worth a try, detoxing our bodies couldn't hurt right?
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I just want to say that I am TOTALLY grossed out now about the mite thing. LOL! They are arachnids for Heaven's sake. We have millions of spiders in our pores. Oh God.

I didn't know Nicole Kidman has KP - I was watching Stepford Wives last night and thinking how perfect her arms looked. Veeeery interesting!

Adding to Roxio's point - coal tar is ALSP a miticide, and what was I just opining about in another thread??
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Anyone here with a microscope willing to do some research on themselves for us? All you have to do is s****e some skin off and tell us if you see a lot of ugly bugs looking back at you. Yup, yup, yup, i'm very grossed out to!

Umm don't some mite infestations on dogs cause hyperkeratosis skin lesions? Maybe we should be asking vet's for help instead of derms...j/k.

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If I still had access to a microscope I'd do it in a heart beat. But I don't. That's probably a good thing.
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I'm always thankful that for the most part Keratosis Pilaris doesn't itch, but after reading all this...gross, gross, gross lol.

Roxio you're right about the things we rec to each other. There is a common link, but as usual - what specifically is each one doing that makes it work/not work? Detoxing correctly prob doesn't hurt, I do think Keratosis Pilaris is our bodies telling us something is not right from the inside. Gratefully, it's not harming us.

Is there anyone in the medical field? Would be so helpful to answer some cell/membrane/functioning questions.
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Study

Found this...

Researchers at Turku waded through the huge amounts of information already available on Sea Buckthorn from earlier studies in Russia and China, and along with their own research, discovered a number of specific health properties. The principal function of the oil is protecting and regenerating the mucous membrane, Tuomasjukka said.

“Mucous membranes are a very important part of our body. I would call them our second skin, or inside skin. They cover the gastro-intestinal (GI) tract, lungs, genitals, etc – all parts of our body which come into contact with the outside world. Mucous membranes act as gatekeepers: they let nutrients in but stop viruses, microbes, toxicants etc. This means that if mucous membranes stop functioning correctly, they can affect the whole body. Sea Buckthorn oil can help ensure that they continue to work correctly.”

Tuomasjukka added that Sea Buckthorn oil had the same effect on skin as it does on mucous membranes. “You could say that Sea Buckthorn oil is a functional food for skin and mucous membranes, providing nutrients and antioxidant protection in balance.”

There are a number of applications for Sea Buckthorn oil, including atopic eczema, other skin problems related to deficient regeneration, UV radiation stressed skin, mouth dryness, mouth ulcers, gastric ulcers, urinary tract inflammations, cervicitis, genital ulcers, sinus inflammation and eye dryness. Tuomasjukka said there was also evidence to suggest that the oil could help treat Crohns disease, although more research was needed in this area.

Membrasin, a Sea Buckthorn oil supplement, designed to help protect the mucous membranes and promote skin health.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/news.asp?id=36158

Okay everyone, honestly am I too curious?
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